The HRT thread

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 25 Jan 2011, 19:28

If they have been designing it for some time, it is both smart and stupid. They have had a lot of PR the last weeks,- and now they are saying this!

But, sponsors will not be too happy for this I guess.

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 26 Jan 2011, 01:35

Never doubt Kolles or HRT

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 26 Jan 2011, 06:33

Exclusive news on HRT.

The new car, the F111 is on wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F111

It looks fast, should fly!
Bit heavy though

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 Jan 2011, 09:19

David AGS wrote:Exclusive news on HRT.

The new car, the F111 is on wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F111

It looks fast, should fly!
Bit heavy though

Seems to be lacking in downforce, though. But seems fast though, despite that. Could easily take out the opposition with that.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 26 Jan 2011, 11:30

dr-baker wrote:
David AGS wrote:Exclusive news on HRT.

The new car, the F111 is on wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F111

It looks fast, should fly!
Bit heavy though

Seems to be lacking in downforce, though. But seems fast though, despite that. Could easily take out the opposition with that.

Those parts coming out of it look dangerous indeed. It doesn't look reliable though...

MaxZero · Post by **MaxZero** » 26 Jan 2011, 12:43

The escape capsule is an innovation for sure, might not be of much use tho if activated in the tunnel at Monaco

Post by **tommykl** » 26 Jan 2011, 12:54

MaxZero wrote:The escape capsule is an innovation for sure, might not be of much use tho if activated in the tunnel at Monaco

Win.

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 27 Jan 2011, 02:37

Speaking of HRT, what is Bruno Senna doing with himself now? Team Lotus Reserve? Since Fauzy left them, the space must be open...

S951 · Post by **S951** » 27 Jan 2011, 09:54

Peter wrote:Speaking of HRT, what is Bruno Senna doing with himself now? Team Lotus Reserve? Since Fauzy left them, the space must be open...

apparant Karun is in talks about the test role at TL aswell

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 08 Feb 2011, 09:44

IT LIVES!!!

I honestly hope that thing performs, it sure looks good!

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 08 Feb 2011, 10:02

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:IT LIVES!!!

I honestly hope that thing performs, it sure looks good!

I'd definitely an improvement on the grey, a sort of inverse Virgin - though it is another red and white car. I'm not sure exactly what their 'top designer' did that someone else couldn't have done, but it 's certainly smart.

ElizabethSterling · Post by **ElizabethSterling** » 08 Feb 2011, 10:24

Visually I can identify only three changes - new front wing, new rear-wing end-plates and a shark fin, surely there's more than that but someone will have to point it out to me.

Edit - AH! Smaller side-pod entries and a straight rear-wing upper element.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Feb 2011, 10:27

ElizabethSterling wrote:Visually I can identify only three changes - new front wing, new rear-wing end-plates and a shark fin, surely there's more than that but someone will have to point it out to me.

I'm assuming the entire rear end has been redone to fit the Williams drivetrain and gearbox but Mario would have to confirm if that's the case.

ElizabethSterling · Post by **ElizabethSterling** » 08 Feb 2011, 10:30

It also comes complete with ENGRISH!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Feb 2011, 10:45

"This could be you" - anyone feeling like asking HRT how much it would cost to bring F1 Reject's logo somewhere on this car? I could donate around 500 € for that purpose.

Also, the livery is not to my liking. I prefer the old greyish livery over just another generic red-white livery.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:04

I can also donate a few euros (up to 100 since its crisis down here). Let's put the F1Rejects logo in the HRT!

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:11

(hopefully) 50 Euros here! C'mon c'mon! Let's get it done!

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:14

Hmm... well, it'll stand out at the starting grid. If it gets there. I think I'd like that livery more if a certain team hadn't already taken a mostly white livery, instead of what would have been an awesome blue livery.

I could probably chuck in $20 for the logo. Probably. I am very cheap.

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:25

I've sent an email to ask what their asking price is. Expect them to ask for a mammoth amount

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:41

The new livery really is a step up from last years greyish brown, which must be the one of the worst colour schemes of an F1 car ever.

Here's hoping that this car can beat the 107% rule.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:50

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:I've sent an email to ask what their asking price is. Expect them to ask for a mammoth amount

Can't be, otherwise we might as well buy the second seat. And if this is going to be the case I will offer my driving services!

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 08 Feb 2011, 12:54

I actually liked their livery last year, but here's hoping their new car is as fast as it looks! Maybe they can become the new Minardi and be everyones second favourite team 8-)

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 08 Feb 2011, 15:42

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/02/08/hrt-to-miss-jerez-test-and-go-to-monza/

I guess they get more money from filming than from testing. In that case it is a good option. Or better yet, the car is really so advanced and fast that they prefered to hide it from rivals!

europeanminardi · Post by **europeanminardi** » 09 Feb 2011, 08:16

Valrys wrote:I actually liked their livery last year, but here's hoping their new car is as fast as it looks! Maybe they can become the new Minardi and be everyones second favourite team

With Dr. Collin Kolles as their team boss, I very much doubt that. He's creepy.

Eryx · Post by **Eryx** » 09 Feb 2011, 13:29

Thing is the HRT car does look very beautiful...alongside the Lotus it is one of the prettiest cars on the grid but sadly "Beauty" doesnt get you speed, granted Kolles has said they will have several upgrades this season which to be honest i believe they will truth is if they can produce this in a short amount of time upgrades will be done quick to.

The problem is they are so far behind there main contender will be most likely Virgin as Lotus (having spent about half of last year on there new car) will be leaps and bounds ahead of Virgin and close to Toro Rosso and Sauber and possibly Force India but who knows everyone may surprise you. I mean if Virgin can lose out to HRT in there debut season against a team that didnt have a single upgrade your on your last legs to begin with lol...kind of embarassing really...

Eryx

xxxx

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Feb 2011, 17:02

The livery is quite pretty, but this thing of openly publiciting their car spaces in the livery itself is easily one fo the more rejectful things I've seen in my life. At least the car looks quite different from the F110, which is something to begin with. Now, let's see if they have someone that can build it for them.

I really expect HRT to be closer to the pace than last year since they will have a new car and more experience, but the issue will be the development, no doubt about it.

Post by **mario** » 09 Feb 2011, 17:15

Wizzie wrote:
ElizabethSterling wrote:Visually I can identify only three changes - new front wing, new rear-wing end-plates and a shark fin, surely there's more than that but someone will have to point it out to me.

I'm assuming the entire rear end has been redone to fit the Williams drivetrain and gearbox but Mario would have to confirm if that's the case.

There will have been some remodelling to adapt to the new gearbox and hydraulic system, that is true; still, you would have thought that, given what Virgin Racing have been able to do with the Xtrac system, HRT could have at least tightened up the packaging at the rear of the car a bit more.

The gearbox in question is thought to be the one used on the 2010 Williams (not the repackaged and much more compact version which they are using now). It seems that they are sticking with a pushrod rear suspension layout as a result, whereas most of the grid are switching to pullrod designs in a case of "follow the leader".

[In case anybody is curious, Virgin Racing and HRT are sticking with conventional pushrod designs, whilst Ferrari and Sauber have repackaged the dampers so they sit at the front of the gearbox, making the system much more streamlined and compact. Everybody else, meanwhile, are using pullrod designs, with Williams going for one of the more unusual layouts.]

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 09 Feb 2011, 17:35

Why the hell are the car numbers on the shark fin?! This isn't NASCAR!

...

... but it's pretty funny, though! :mrgreen:

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 09 Feb 2011, 17:36

Phoenix wrote:The livery is quite pretty, but this thing of openly publiciting their car spaces in the livery itself is easily one fo the more rejectful things I've seen in my life. At least the car looks quite different from the F110, which is something to begin with.

Not so much...

It's different, but not so different.

EDIT: for some reason the image is not fully shown.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Feb 2011, 17:38

It must be that stupid livery, that's playing tricks with my head then :roll:

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 09 Feb 2011, 22:30

LOL at the This could be you area, especially since that's where the names used to be.

Are they holding an auction for the second seat at the moment?

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 09 Feb 2011, 22:36

Phoenix wrote:

"This could be you, Christian. Now, give us the money."

watka · Post by **watka** » 09 Feb 2011, 23:10

I think someone should pay for the "This Could Be You" space to display "Lucky Strike". Very BAR.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 10 Feb 2011, 00:34

Their new livery is awesome - I'd love to see it on the track soon. I especially like the checkered flag and all these sponsors.

How about putting F1 Rejects logo on the COOL SPOT?

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 10 Feb 2011, 01:19

Having now seen the car from other angles, with more emphasis on the chequered flag, I do think it looks rather gorgeous.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 10 Feb 2011, 10:51

Pointrox wrote:How about putting F1 Rejects logo on the COOL SPOT?

As soon as I saw "THIS IS A COOL SPOT" I immediately thought of the character of the same name from the 7Up adverts in the 90s... in the US. Cool Spot only ever hit our shores on the damp side of the Atlantic in the form of the SNES & Mega Drive game, requiring a bit of explanation as to what Cool Spot actually was. Which has now set me thinking... if we can send someone from 7Up marketing department a picture of the Hispania, maybe they'll see "THIS IS A COOL SPOT" and it'll trigger them to sponsor the car. We all know what happened last time 7Up were involved with F1... next thing we know, the F111 has turned green, and we have the Ultimate Reject Car!

Someone make it happen.

fjackdaw wrote:Having now seen the car from other angles, with more emphasis on the chequered flag, I do think it looks rather gorgeous.

A cynic might say that the reason for having the chequered flag design on the Hispania is because it's the only realistic way they'll get to see it...

billy · Post by **billy** » 10 Feb 2011, 14:00

Hello! I'm a long time podcast listener and forum lurker, but this is my first post.

Some of you may say that the HRT looks like a BAR, maybe even a Toyota, a Virgin or a Super Aguri. I think they had other ideas. Those colours could reveal a shocking secret. Could HRT be secretly run behind the scenes by...

?

It's too close to be coincidence.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 10 Feb 2011, 16:42

billy wrote:Hello! I'm a long time podcast listener and forum lurker, but this is my first post.

Some of you may say that the HRT looks like a BAR, maybe even a Toyota, a Virgin or a Super Aguri. I think they had other ideas. Those colours could reveal a shocking secret. Could HRT be secretly run behind the scenes by...

?

It's too close to be coincidence.

I'm standing up.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Feb 2011, 23:48

billy wrote:Hello! I'm a long time podcast listener and forum lurker, but this is my first post.

Some of you may say that the HRT looks like a BAR, maybe even a Toyota, a Virgin or a Super Aguri. I think they had other ideas. Those colours could reveal a shocking secret. Could HRT be secretly run behind the scenes by...

?

It's too close to be coincidence.

So that means Jacques Villeneuve could well be the second driver?

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 11 Feb 2011, 06:22

I still haven't got a response from HRT (they've probably forgotten they have a contact section), but in the meantime, should we target 10,000 euros?

EDIT: The count thus far:

Klon- 500
DanielPT- 100
Jeroen- 100
Aerond- 100
BlindCaveSalamander- 100
Ferrim- 100
Valrys- 50-100
watka- 50-100
MaxZero- 50
AndreaModa- 50
thehemogoblin- 35
TML- 15