1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Petrov
4. Alonso
5. Webber
6. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 10
2. Hamilton 6
3. Petrov 4
4. Alonso 3
5. Webber 2
6. Button 1
1. Red Bull 12
2. McLaren 7
3. Renault 4
4. Ferrari 3
2003 - 2009 system
Australian GP
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Petrov
4. Alonso
5. Webber
6. Button
7. Massa
8. Buemi
Champs
1. Vettel 10
2. Hamilton 8
3. Petrov 6
4. Alonso 5
5. Webber 4
6. Button 3
7. Massa 2
8. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 14
2. McLaren 11
3. Ferrari 7
4. Renault 6
5. Toro Rosso 1
2011 - Old points systems
2011 - Old points systems
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Malaysian GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Heidfeld
4. Webber
5. Massa
6. Alonso
Champs
1. Vettel 20
2. Button 7
3. Hamilton 6
4. Webber 5
5. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, has another finish)
6. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, has no other finish)
7. Alonso 4 (Best result: 4th)
8. Massa 2
1. Red Bull 25
2. McLaren 13
3. Renault 8
4. Ferrari 6
2003 - 2009 system FIXED
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Heidfeld
4. Webber
5. Massa
6. Alonso
7. Kobayashi
8. Hamilton
Champs
1. Vettel 20
2. Button 11
3. Hamilton 9 (Best finish: 2nd)
4. Webber 9 (Best finish: 4th)
5. Alonso 8
6. Heidfeld 6 (Best result: 3rd, has another finish)
7. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd, has no another finish)
8. Massa 6 (Best result: 5th)
9. Kobayashi 2
10. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 29
2. McLaren 20
3. Ferrari 14
4. Renault 12
6. Sauber 2
6. Toro Rosso 1
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Heidfeld
4. Webber
5. Massa
6. Alonso
Champs
1. Vettel 20
2. Button 7
3. Hamilton 6
4. Webber 5
5. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, has another finish)
6. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, has no other finish)
7. Alonso 4 (Best result: 4th)
8. Massa 2
1. Red Bull 25
2. McLaren 13
3. Renault 8
4. Ferrari 6
2003 - 2009 system FIXED
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Heidfeld
4. Webber
5. Massa
6. Alonso
7. Kobayashi
8. Hamilton
Champs
1. Vettel 20
2. Button 11
3. Hamilton 9 (Best finish: 2nd)
4. Webber 9 (Best finish: 4th)
5. Alonso 8
6. Heidfeld 6 (Best result: 3rd, has another finish)
7. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd, has no another finish)
8. Massa 6 (Best result: 5th)
9. Kobayashi 2
10. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 29
2. McLaren 20
3. Ferrari 14
4. Renault 12
6. Sauber 2
6. Toro Rosso 1
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Chinese GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 26
2. Button 10
3. Hamilton 16
4. Webber 9
5. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 9th)
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 12th)
7. Alonso 4 (Best result: 4th)
8. Massa 3
9. Rosberg 2
1. Red Bull 35
2. McLaren 26
3. Renault 8
4. Ferrari 7
5. Mercedes 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Massa
7. Alonso
8. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 28
2. Button 16
3. Hamilton 19 (Best finish: 2nd)
4. Webber 15 (Best finish: 4th)
5. Alonso 10
6. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
7. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 9th)
8. Heidfeld 6 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 12th)
9. Rosberg 4
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th)
12. Buemi 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 13th)
1. Red Bull 43
2. McLaren 35
3. Ferrari 19
4. Renault 12
5. Mercedes 5
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
1991 - 2002 system
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 26
2. Button 10
3. Hamilton 16
4. Webber 9
5. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 9th)
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 12th)
7. Alonso 4 (Best result: 4th)
8. Massa 3
9. Rosberg 2
1. Red Bull 35
2. McLaren 26
3. Renault 8
4. Ferrari 7
5. Mercedes 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Massa
7. Alonso
8. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 28
2. Button 16
3. Hamilton 19 (Best finish: 2nd)
4. Webber 15 (Best finish: 4th)
5. Alonso 10
6. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
7. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 9th)
8. Heidfeld 6 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 12th)
9. Rosberg 4
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th)
12. Buemi 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 13th)
1. Red Bull 43
2. McLaren 35
3. Ferrari 19
4. Renault 12
5. Mercedes 5
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
I stumbled across the (fictional) results of the Bahrain Grand Prix so I decided in a fit of genius (or insanity) to see what the championship would look like should those results be included 
1991-2002:
1. Barrichello
2. Heidfeld
3. Rosberg
4. Petrov
5. Sutil
6. Maldonado
Champs
1. Vettel 26
2. Hamilton 16
3. Barrichello 10 (1 win)
4. Heidfeld 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
5. Button 10 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
6. Webber 9
7. Petrov 7
8. Rosberg 6
9. Alonso 4
10. Massa 3
11. Sutil: 2
12. Maldonado: 1
1. Red Bull 35
2. McLaren 26
3. Renault 17
4. Williams 11
5. Ferrari 7
6. Mercedes 6
7. Force India: 2
2003-2009:
1. Barrichello
2. Heidfeld
3. Rosberg
4. Petrov
5. Sutil
6. Maldonado
7. Perez
8. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 28
2. Hamilton 19
3. Button 17
4. Webber 15
5. Heidfeld 14
6. Petrov 11
7. Barrichello: 10 (1 win)
8. Rosberg 10 (1 3rd)
9. Alonso 10 (1 4th)
10. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
11. Sutil 4
12. Maldonado 3
13. Kobayashi 2 (1 7th, 1 10th)
14. Perez 2 (1 7th, 1 17th)
15. Schumacher 1 (1 8th, 1 9th)
16. Buemi 1 (1 8th,1 13th)
1. Red Bull 43
2. McLaren 36
3. Renault 25
4. Ferrari 19
5. Williams 13
6. Mercedes 11
7. Force India 4
8. Sauber 4
9. Toro Rosso 1
1991-2002:
1. Barrichello
2. Heidfeld
3. Rosberg
4. Petrov
5. Sutil
6. Maldonado
Champs
1. Vettel 26
2. Hamilton 16
3. Barrichello 10 (1 win)
4. Heidfeld 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
5. Button 10 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
6. Webber 9
7. Petrov 7
8. Rosberg 6
9. Alonso 4
10. Massa 3
11. Sutil: 2
12. Maldonado: 1
1. Red Bull 35
2. McLaren 26
3. Renault 17
4. Williams 11
5. Ferrari 7
6. Mercedes 6
7. Force India: 2
2003-2009:
1. Barrichello
2. Heidfeld
3. Rosberg
4. Petrov
5. Sutil
6. Maldonado
7. Perez
8. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 28
2. Hamilton 19
3. Button 17
4. Webber 15
5. Heidfeld 14
6. Petrov 11
7. Barrichello: 10 (1 win)
8. Rosberg 10 (1 3rd)
9. Alonso 10 (1 4th)
10. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
11. Sutil 4
12. Maldonado 3
13. Kobayashi 2 (1 7th, 1 10th)
14. Perez 2 (1 7th, 1 17th)
15. Schumacher 1 (1 8th, 1 9th)
16. Buemi 1 (1 8th,1 13th)
1. Red Bull 43
2. McLaren 36
3. Renault 25
4. Ferrari 19
5. Williams 13
6. Mercedes 11
7. Force India 4
8. Sauber 4
9. Toro Rosso 1
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Wizzie wrote:I stumbled across the (fictional) results of the Bahrain Grand Prix so I decided in a fit of genius (or insanity) to see what the championship would look like should those results be included
I´d say insageniusty.
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
I would say that those are the effects of F1 withdrawal for an enormous time length (four months 
)
)Colin Kolles on F111, 2011 HRT challenger: The car doesn't look too bad; it looks like a modern F1 car.
Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Turkish GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Rosberg
6. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 36
2. Hamilton 19
3. Webber 15
4. Button 11
5. Alonso 8
6. Rosberg 4
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
8. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 11th)
9. Massa 3
1. Red Bull 51
2. McLaren 30
3. Ferrari 11
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 4
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Rosberg
6. Button
7. Heidfeld
8. Petrov
Champs
1. Vettel 38
2. Hamilton 24 (Best finish: 2nd)
3. Webber 23 (Best finish: 4th)
4. Button 19
5. Alonso 16
6. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
8. Heidfeld 8 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Rosberg 8 (Best result: 4th)
7. Petrov 7
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th, third best result: 12th)
12. Buemi 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th, third best result: 13th)
1. Red Bull 61
2. McLaren 43
3. Ferrari 25
4. Renault 15
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Rosberg
6. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 36
2. Hamilton 19
3. Webber 15
4. Button 11
5. Alonso 8
6. Rosberg 4
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
8. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 11th)
9. Massa 3
1. Red Bull 51
2. McLaren 30
3. Ferrari 11
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 4
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Rosberg
6. Button
7. Heidfeld
8. Petrov
Champs
1. Vettel 38
2. Hamilton 24 (Best finish: 2nd)
3. Webber 23 (Best finish: 4th)
4. Button 19
5. Alonso 16
6. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
8. Heidfeld 8 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Rosberg 8 (Best result: 4th)
7. Petrov 7
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th, third best result: 12th)
12. Buemi 1 (Best result: 8th, second best result: 9th, third best result: 13th)
1. Red Bull 61
2. McLaren 43
3. Ferrari 25
4. Renault 15
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
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Spanish GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 46
2. Hamilton 25
3. Webber 18
4. Button 15
5. Alonso 10
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 8th)
8. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th)
9. Massa 3
10. Schumacher 1
1. Red Bull 64
2. McLaren 40
3. Ferrari 13
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 5
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Schumacher
7. Rosberg
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 48
2. Hamilton 32
3. Webber 28
4. Button 25
5. Alonso 20
6. Rosberg 10
7. Heidfeld 9 (Best result: 3rd)
8. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
9. Petrov 7
10. Schumacher 4
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 76
2. McLaren 57
3. Ferrari 29
4. Renault 16
5. Mercedes 14
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 46
2. Hamilton 25
3. Webber 18
4. Button 15
5. Alonso 10
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 8th)
8. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th)
9. Massa 3
10. Schumacher 1
1. Red Bull 64
2. McLaren 40
3. Ferrari 13
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 5
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Schumacher
7. Rosberg
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 48
2. Hamilton 32
3. Webber 28
4. Button 25
5. Alonso 20
6. Rosberg 10
7. Heidfeld 9 (Best result: 3rd)
8. Massa 9 (Best result: 5th)
9. Petrov 7
10. Schumacher 4
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 76
2. McLaren 57
3. Ferrari 29
4. Renault 16
5. Mercedes 14
6. Sauber 2
7. Toro Rosso 1
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
just one question. Shoudn´t this be in the perry mccarthy forum?
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Vepe wrote:just one question. Shoudn´t this be in the perry mccarthy forum?
its about the current season
Re: 2011 - Old points systems
WeirdKerr wrote:its about the current season
yes, but it´s fictional
Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Who cares which forum it's in? 
Anyway, thank goodness we don't still have the 1991 - 2002 points system, only 5 teams would have scored with that in place!
Anyway, thank goodness we don't still have the 1991 - 2002 points system, only 5 teams would have scored with that in place!
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(Tony Jardine, 1988)Re: 2011 - Old points systems
James1978 wrote:Who cares which forum it's in?
I don´t actually care where it is, just asked a question
Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Vepe wrote:just one question. Shoudn´t this be in the perry mccarthy forum?
Yes, indeed. It doesn't matter if it's from this season. For me, it falls into the "Alternative championships" category, so I'm moving the thread there. Thanks for your understanding
Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Monaco GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Kobayashi
6. Hamilton
Champs
1. Vettel 56
2. Hamilton 26
3. Webber 21
4. Button 19
5. Alonso 16
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 8th)
8. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th)
9. Massa 3
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1
1. Red Bull 77
2. McLaren 45
3. Ferrari 19
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 5
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Kobayashi
6. Hamilton
7. Sutil
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 58
2. Hamilton 35
3. Webber 33
4. Button 31
5. Alonso 28
6. Heidfeld 10 (Best result: 3rd)
7. Rosberg 10 (Best result: 5th)
8. Massa 9
9. Petrov 7
10. Kobayashi 6
11. Schumacher 4
12. Sutil 2
13. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 91
2. McLaren 66
3. Ferrari 37
4. Renault 17
5. Mercedes 14
6. Sauber 6
7. Force India 2
8. Toro Rosso 1
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Kobayashi
6. Hamilton
Champs
1. Vettel 56
2. Hamilton 26
3. Webber 21
4. Button 19
5. Alonso 16
6. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
7. Petrov 4 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 8th)
8. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th)
9. Massa 3
10. Kobayashi 2
11. Schumacher 1
1. Red Bull 77
2. McLaren 45
3. Ferrari 19
4. Renault 8
5. Mercedes 5
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Kobayashi
6. Hamilton
7. Sutil
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 58
2. Hamilton 35
3. Webber 33
4. Button 31
5. Alonso 28
6. Heidfeld 10 (Best result: 3rd)
7. Rosberg 10 (Best result: 5th)
8. Massa 9
9. Petrov 7
10. Kobayashi 6
11. Schumacher 4
12. Sutil 2
13. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 91
2. McLaren 66
3. Ferrari 37
4. Renault 17
5. Mercedes 14
6. Sauber 6
7. Force India 2
8. Toro Rosso 1
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Canadian GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Petrov
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 62
2. Button 29
3. Hamilton 26
4. Webber 25
5. Alonso 16
6. Petrov 6
7. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
8. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
9. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th, twice)
10. Massa 4 (Best result: 5th, once)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 87
2. McLaren 55
3. Ferrari 20
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 8
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Petrov
6. Massa
7. Kobayashi
8. Alguersuari
Champs
1. Vettel 66
2. Button 41
3. Webber 39
4. Hamilton 35
5. Alonso 28
6. Massa 12
7. Petrov 11
8. Heidfeld 10 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Rosberg 10 (Best result: 5th)
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2
13. Buemi 1
14. Alguersuari 1
1. Red Bull 105
2. McLaren 76
3. Ferrari 40
4. Renault 21
5. Mercedes 19
6. Sauber 8
7. Force India 2
8. Toro Rosso 2
1991 - 2002 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Petrov
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 62
2. Button 29
3. Hamilton 26
4. Webber 25
5. Alonso 16
6. Petrov 6
7. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
8. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
9. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th, twice)
10. Massa 4 (Best result: 5th, once)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 87
2. McLaren 55
3. Ferrari 20
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 8
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Petrov
6. Massa
7. Kobayashi
8. Alguersuari
Champs
1. Vettel 66
2. Button 41
3. Webber 39
4. Hamilton 35
5. Alonso 28
6. Massa 12
7. Petrov 11
8. Heidfeld 10 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Rosberg 10 (Best result: 5th)
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2
13. Buemi 1
14. Alguersuari 1
1. Red Bull 105
2. McLaren 76
3. Ferrari 40
4. Renault 21
5. Mercedes 19
6. Sauber 8
7. Force India 2
8. Toro Rosso 2
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European GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 72
2. Button 30
3. Hamilton 29 (Best result: 1st)
4. Webber 29 (Best result: 2nd)
5. Alonso 22
6. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd
7. Massa 6 (Best result: 5th)
8. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
10. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th, twice)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 101
2. McLaren 59
3. Ferrari 28
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 8
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Button
7. Rosberg
8. Alguersuari
Champs
1. Vettel 76
2. Webber 45
3. Button 44
4. Hamilton 40
5. Alonso 36
6. Massa 16
7. Rosberg 12
8. Petrov 11
9. Heidfeld 10
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2 (Best result: 7th)
13. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
14. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 121
2. McLaren 84
3. Ferrari 52
4. Renault 21 (Best result: 3rd)
5. Mercedes 21 (Best result: 4th)
6. Sauber 8
7. Toro Rosso 3
8. Force India 2
1991 - 2002 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Button
Champs
1. Vettel 72
2. Button 30
3. Hamilton 29 (Best result: 1st)
4. Webber 29 (Best result: 2nd)
5. Alonso 22
6. Petrov 6 (Best result: 3rd
7. Massa 6 (Best result: 5th)
8. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
9. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
10. Rosberg 4 (Best result: 5th, twice)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 101
2. McLaren 59
3. Ferrari 28
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 8
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Vettel
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Button
7. Rosberg
8. Alguersuari
Champs
1. Vettel 76
2. Webber 45
3. Button 44
4. Hamilton 40
5. Alonso 36
6. Massa 16
7. Rosberg 12
8. Petrov 11
9. Heidfeld 10
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2 (Best result: 7th)
13. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
14. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 121
2. McLaren 84
3. Ferrari 52
4. Renault 21 (Best result: 3rd)
5. Mercedes 21 (Best result: 4th)
6. Sauber 8
7. Toro Rosso 3
8. Force India 2
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British GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
Champs
1. Vettel 78
2. Webber 33
3. Alonso 32 (Best result: 1st; second best result: 2nd, twice; third best result, 3rd)
4. Hamilton 32 (Best result: 1st; second best result: 2nd, twice; third best result, 4th)
5. Button 30
6. Massa 8
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
10. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 111
2. McLaren 62
3. Ferrari 40
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
7. Pérez
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 84
2. Webber 51
3. Alonso 46
4. Hamilton 45
5. Button 44
6. Massa 20
7. Rosberg 15
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, twice)
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, once)
14. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
15. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 135
2. McLaren 89
3. Ferrari 66
4. Mercedes 24
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Toro Rosso 3
8. Force India 2
1991 - 2002 system
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
Champs
1. Vettel 78
2. Webber 33
3. Alonso 32 (Best result: 1st; second best result: 2nd, twice; third best result, 3rd)
4. Hamilton 32 (Best result: 1st; second best result: 2nd, twice; third best result, 4th)
5. Button 30
6. Massa 8
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
10. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
11. Kobayashi 2
1. Red Bull 111
2. McLaren 62
3. Ferrari 40
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
2003 - 2009 system
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Hamilton
5. Massa
6. Rosberg
7. Pérez
8. Heidfeld
Champs
1. Vettel 84
2. Webber 51
3. Alonso 46
4. Hamilton 45
5. Button 44
6. Massa 20
7. Rosberg 15
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 9
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, twice)
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, once)
14. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
15. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 135
2. McLaren 89
3. Ferrari 66
4. Mercedes 24
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Toro Rosso 3
8. Force India 2
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
In the 1991-2002 system, Rosberg and Schumacher are only separated by 1 point and Massa seems to be really struggling. Yet, the 4th best team is still GenII Capital Racing a/k/a Renault, being also 1 point ahead of BAR-Mercedes.
It is a surprise how little teams (only 6) have scored under this system so far.
I would like to see more drivers unrejectify themselves but with the current reliability of the cars, it's especially hard for backmarkers.
It is a surprise how little teams (only 6) have scored under this system so far.
I would like to see more drivers unrejectify themselves but with the current reliability of the cars, it's especially hard for backmarkers.
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The fact that only 6 teams have scored points (and Sauber only due to the crazy race at Monaco) under the pre-2003 points system just underlines why they HAD to change it!
The way Vettel is going though, I'd have maybe preferred them to have kept the 03 - 09 system in place so he doesn't pull away so much......
The way Vettel is going though, I'd have maybe preferred them to have kept the 03 - 09 system in place so he doesn't pull away so much......
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James1978 wrote:The fact that only 6 teams have scored points (and Sauber only due to the crazy race at Monaco) under the pre-2003 points system just underlines why they HAD to change it!
But that problem didn't exist when they changed it. Every team scored points in 2002, actually, and that means eleven teams scored points.
I've got a theory that it's actually the other way round. More people scoring points put a bigger emphasis in finishing races and led to an increase in reliability (at least, partially). I know the facts disagree with me, but it's staggering to see how F1 was an unreliable formula for so many years and how suddenly unreliability started to decrease very fast, even before the engine freeze.
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German GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Sutil
Champs
1. Vettel 81
2. Hamilton 42
3. Alonso 38
4. Webber 37
5. Button 30
6. Massa 10
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4
10. Schumacher 4
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Sutil 1
1. Red Bull 118
2. McLaren 72
3. Ferrari 48
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Force India 1
2003 - 2009 system
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Sutil
7. Rosberg
8. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 89
2. Webber 57
3. Hamilton 55
4. Alonso 54
5. Button 44
6. Massa 24
7. Rosberg 17
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 10
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 5
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, once)
14. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
15. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 146
2. McLaren 99
3. Ferrari 78
4. Mercedes 27
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Force India 5
8. Toro Rosso 3
Interesting how long Renault are managing to stay ahead of Mercedes in the "top 6" system. That comes from their two podiums at the start of the season; since most Mercedes finishes are between 7th and 10th, they can't take points back.
Note: I'll update the No Real Champions thread when there's something noteworthy about it -right now is just Webber winning every race!
1991 - 2002 system
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Sutil
Champs
1. Vettel 81
2. Hamilton 42
3. Alonso 38
4. Webber 37
5. Button 30
6. Massa 10
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4
10. Schumacher 4
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Sutil 1
1. Red Bull 118
2. McLaren 72
3. Ferrari 48
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Force India 1
2003 - 2009 system
1. Hamilton
2. Alonso
3. Webber
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Sutil
7. Rosberg
8. Schumacher
Champs
1. Vettel 89
2. Webber 57
3. Hamilton 55
4. Alonso 54
5. Button 44
6. Massa 24
7. Rosberg 17
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 10
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 5
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th, once)
14. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th)
15. Buemi 1
1. Red Bull 146
2. McLaren 99
3. Ferrari 78
4. Mercedes 27
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Force India 5
8. Toro Rosso 3
Interesting how long Renault are managing to stay ahead of Mercedes in the "top 6" system. That comes from their two podiums at the start of the season; since most Mercedes finishes are between 7th and 10th, they can't take points back.
Note: I'll update the No Real Champions thread when there's something noteworthy about it -right now is just Webber winning every race!
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Ferrim wrote:Note: I'll update the No Real Champions thread when there's something noteworthy about it -right now is just Webber winning every race!
Given that now the top 3 teams now seem intermingled with each other, seriously Massa should be beating Webber on some occasions. It's quite shocking Massa hasn't won a non-champions race this year!
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Hungarian GP
1991 - 2002 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 87
2. Hamilton 45
3. Alonso 42
4. Button 40
5. Webber 39
6. Massa 11
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
10. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Sutil 1
1. Red Bull 126
2. McLaren 85
3. Ferrari 53
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Force India 1
2003 - 2009 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Massa
7. Di Resta
8. Buemi
Champs
1. Vettel 97
2. Webber 61
3. Hamilton 60 (Best result: 1st, twice)
4. Alonso 60 (Best result: 1st, once)
5. Button 54
6. Massa 27
7. Rosberg 17
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 10
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 5
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th)
14. Di Resta 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 10th)
15. Buemi 2 (Best result; 8th, twice; second best result: 9th)
16. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th, twice; second best result: 10th)
1. Red Bull 158
2. McLaren 114
3. Ferrari 87
4. Mercedes 27
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Force India 7
8. Toro Rosso 4
1991 - 2002 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Massa
Champs
1. Vettel 87
2. Hamilton 45
3. Alonso 42
4. Button 40
5. Webber 39
6. Massa 11
7. Petrov 6
8. Rosberg 5
9. Heidfeld 4 (Best result: 3rd)
10. Schumacher 4 (Best result: 4th)
11. Kobayashi 2
12. Sutil 1
1. Red Bull 126
2. McLaren 85
3. Ferrari 53
4. Renault 10
5. Mercedes 9
6. Sauber 2
7. Force India 1
2003 - 2009 system
1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Alonso
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Massa
7. Di Resta
8. Buemi
Champs
1. Vettel 97
2. Webber 61
3. Hamilton 60 (Best result: 1st, twice)
4. Alonso 60 (Best result: 1st, once)
5. Button 54
6. Massa 27
7. Rosberg 17
8. Petrov 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 5th)
9. Heidfeld 11 (Best result: 3rd, second best result: 7th)
10. Schumacher 10
11. Kobayashi 8
12. Sutil 5
13. Pérez 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 9th)
14. Di Resta 2 (Best result: 7th; second best result: 10th)
15. Buemi 2 (Best result; 8th, twice; second best result: 9th)
16. Alguersuari 2 (Best result: 8th, twice; second best result: 10th)
1. Red Bull 158
2. McLaren 114
3. Ferrari 87
4. Mercedes 27
5. Renault 22
6. Sauber 10
7. Force India 7
8. Toro Rosso 4
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I've stopped making this one as now I'm using an alternative formula with 10 points for the winner, down to 0.5 points for 10th. It's pretty much the same as the real system, but with half points messing up a little bit. More realistic and still similar to the old systems...
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I'll happily carry this on to the end of the season. I'll post the next result tonight when I'm at work.
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
How about 2012? Is there a thread for old points systems for 2012 yet? I think it would help put things into perspective for those who are (still) watching.
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Re: 2011 - Old points systems
Oh, I volunteer to do it with the 1991-2002 system
Standings after Australia:
1.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 10
2.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 6
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 4
4.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 3
5.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 2
6.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 14
2.- RBR - Renault 9
3.- Ferrari 2
4.- Sauber - Ferrari 1
Standings after Australia:
1.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 10
2.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 6
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 4
4.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 3
5.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 2
6.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 14
2.- RBR - Renault 9
3.- Ferrari 2
4.- Sauber - Ferrari 1
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Standings after Malaysia
1.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12
2.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 10
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 8
4.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
5.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 6 - 1 2nd
6.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 6 - 2 4ths
7.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 2
8.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 18
2.- Ferrari 12 - 1 win
3.- RBR - Renault 12 - 1 2nd
4.- Sauber - Ferrari 7
5.- Lotus - Renault 2
6.- Williams - Renault 1
1.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12
2.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 10
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 8
4.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
5.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 6 - 1 2nd
6.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 6 - 2 4ths
7.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 2
8.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 18
2.- Ferrari 12 - 1 win
3.- RBR - Renault 12 - 1 2nd
4.- Sauber - Ferrari 7
5.- Lotus - Renault 2
6.- Williams - Renault 1
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Standings after China:
1.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 16
2.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12 - 1 win
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 12 - 3 3rds
4.- Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 10
5.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 9
6.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 8
7.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
8.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 2
9.- Romain Grosjean (Lotus - Renault) 1
10.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 28
2.- RBR - Renault 17
3.- Ferrari 12
4.- Mercedes - 10
5.- Sauber - Ferrari 7
6.- Lotus - Renault 3
7.- Williams - Renault 1
1.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 16
2.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12 - 1 win
3.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 12 - 3 3rds
4.- Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 10
5.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 9
6.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 8
7.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
8.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 2
9.- Romain Grosjean (Lotus - Renault) 1
10.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- McLaren - Mercedes 28
2.- RBR - Renault 17
3.- Ferrari 12
4.- Mercedes - 10
5.- Sauber - Ferrari 7
6.- Lotus - Renault 3
7.- Williams - Renault 1
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Standings after Bahrain:
1.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 18
2.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 16
3.- Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 12 - 1 win
4.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12 - 1 win
5.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 12 - 3 3rds
6.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 12 - 4 4ths
7.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 8
8.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
9.- Romain Grosjean (Lotus - Renault) 5
10.- Paul di Resta (Force India - Mercedes) 1
11.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- RBR - Renault 30
2.- McLaren - Mercedes 28
3.- Lotus - Renault 13
4.- Mercedes 12
5.- Ferrari 12
6.- Force India - Mercedes 1
7.- Williams - Renault 1
You can see how closely bunched the field is this year.
1.- Sebastian Vettel (RBR - Renault) 18
2.- Jenson Button (McLaren - Mercedes) 16
3.- Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 12 - 1 win
4.- Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 12 - 1 win
5.- Lewis Hamilton (McLaren - Mercedes) 12 - 3 3rds
6.- Mark Webber (RBR - Renault) 12 - 4 4ths
7.- Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus - Renault) 8
8.- Sergio Pérez (Sauber - Ferrari) 7
9.- Romain Grosjean (Lotus - Renault) 5
10.- Paul di Resta (Force India - Mercedes) 1
11.- Bruno Senna (Williams - Renault) 1
1.- RBR - Renault 30
2.- McLaren - Mercedes 28
3.- Lotus - Renault 13
4.- Mercedes 12
5.- Ferrari 12
6.- Force India - Mercedes 1
7.- Williams - Renault 1
You can see how closely bunched the field is this year.