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Suu Yuu Haa Da (Lawyer for the Kamaha Motorsports Team) wrote:We hereby bring this case to court and would like to sue Mr Kay Lon of the Jones Racing Team for the following charges.

1 - Failing to perform 100% whilst testing and racing with Kamaha Motorsports (Formerly Kahama Motorsports).
2 - Slandering the team during and after leaving the team.
3 - Taking trade secrets of the Kamaha (Kahama) Car to Jones Racing.
4 - Giving false feedback during test sessions, thus hindering developement.

We hope to prove all these charges and wish to sue Kay Lon for the 6 months wages he was paid and if charge 3 is proven, we move that the F1RWRS council take measures to fine, penalise or ban Kay Lon and Jones Racing from the series.


I need a Judge, someone who is not currently involved with the F1RWRS and is preferablely not from the UK, Germany or Japan. If you wish to apply then just post a message here.
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Really? :lol:
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SuperAguri wrote:I need a Judge, someone who is not currently involved with the F1RWRS and is preferablely not from the UK, Germany or Japan. If you wish to apply then just post a message here.

Well, I fit your criteria. The only problem is that I have no idea how to act as a judge. :P
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Sammy Jones wrote:Whilst it's very sad to see my driver wrapped up in this court case, and I feel that things could have been resolved in a much more amicable way outside of court, I need to categorically confirm a few details before court proceedings get under-way.

Whilst I cannot confirm or refute allegations regarding to Kay Lon's actions during his time at Kahama, I'd like to point out that our car, the CJR-201B was designed, finalised and built long before we signed Kay Lon, as there were also negotiations with at least one other driver, Hagane Shizuka prior to our first race in Mexico. Since then there have been no upgrades to our car as we have been wholly satisfied with its performance which has so far delivered us 1 win and 2 podiums from our first four races. For Barii Mori to make such wild accusations is bordering on libel and slander and if he doesn't subsequently retract these comments about Castrol Jones Racing, then I have no option as team owner but to launch a counter-case against him.

It seems that the young driver has let a few things get to him recently, and as Chris Dagnall will confirm from last year, we have a certain amount of history in producing a good car, hell we nearly walked away with both championships! What Mori can't seem to accept is that Jones Racing has carried through a certain percentage of that good formula we had last year into the design of the CJR-201B. To suggest that we have any parts from his back-of-the-grid team which teeters on the brink of pre-qualifying for the second half of the season is ridiculous in the extreme. I suggest he takes a deep breath, thinks seriously about these allegations, and makes a decision on whether to actively pursue them or not. In terms of his dispute with Kay Lon, that is a matter between those two parties. As Mr Lon's employer all I can do is support him as best I can as he's been an exemplary driver for us so far this season. But in the matters regarding Jones Racing, I shall stand my ground and fight for justice and to clear our name. Ever since the team's formation we've rarely been out of the headlines for one reason or another, and through it all we have come to still perform and do our talking on the track. This is just another minor event in the Jones Racing story, and one I am confident will be dealt with accordingly.
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SuperAguri wrote:I need a Judge, someone who is not currently involved with the F1RWRS and is preferablely not from the UK, Germany or Japan. If you wish to apply then just post a message here.


Nice idea. I was thinking about playing it through. Looking forward to this, adds a true element of role-playing


Johann Schwenn to assist Kay Lon in upcoming court case

Famous German lawyer Johann Schwenn will assist F1RWRS driver Kay Lon in his court case against his former team Kahama. The known lawyer, most famous for his involvement in the Kachelmann trial two years ago, is known for his loud-mouthed defense and will most likely fit well with Kay Lon. "This case is a farce, that is pretty obvious.", he stated to TV reporters.
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I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy watching this play through.
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tommykl wrote:I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy watching this play through.


Same here.
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Taking a seat amongst viewers as I have a possibility ending up driving for Kamaha if I'm unlucky. :lol:

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I will be the crazy jesus guy in the public viewing gallery who proclaims the rapture is coming and will destory everything.
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Geez, this is crazier when I got that sunburn - when it was raining!
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I'll take part in this as an alderman :D
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Malinth wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:I need a Judge, someone who is not currently involved with the F1RWRS and is preferablely not from the UK, Germany or Japan. If you wish to apply then just post a message here.

Well, I fit your criteria. The only problem is that I have no idea how to act as a judge. :P

That probably means you are more qualified then most judges :lol:

All you have to do is to listen to the arguements and witnesses and then make a judgement on each 1 of the 4 charges, you'll be told when you need to do this and you have 3 choices of Proven (for me), Disproven (for Kay Lon) and Open (for neither of us). I think this should take about 2 weeks or so, all you have to do is to make comments every so often in a neutral judge like manner and hopefully the result will be entertaining :) :mrgreen:
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MCALLISTER TO SUE SAMMY JONES FOR DODGY DRIVING

F1RWRS driver Phoenix McAllister is looking forward to sue Sammy Jones for the incident that happened at the Silverstone round of last year's F1RWRS season between Sammy Jones and by-then Team Phoenix driver Barii Mori.

Jones smashed the rear end of Mori's car at the beginning of the race and inflicted damage to McAllister's car at that same incident, which compromised McAllister's race. Both drivers claimed then that the actions of Sammy Jones were intentional and overtly malicious.

After the race, both McAllister and Jones engaged on a punch fight that saw Jones needing medical treatment and McAllister being charged for assault and aggresion.

Incidentally, Morii (who hasn't pursued any legal action for this incident so far) is also involved now in a litigation with Jones' team about the behavior of their ex-driver, German Kay Lon, who now drives for Jones Racing, claiming the man from Flensburg may have underperformed on purpose during his time driving for Morii's team, Kamaha, and he even commited industrial espionage taking secret information about Kamaha's car to Jones Racing.

Neither of the men involved in this issue was available for comments.


*Sniggles*

I may as well open a thread for this tomorrow.
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Maybe we should rename this thread. Post title is my proposal. :lol:

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Well, let's connect the witnesses for the defense:

Kay Lon himself (Obvious, really)

Sammy Jones

Pyotr Olegovich Chernenko
(Assisting Lead Designer for the 2010 and 2011 Kamaha car, currently out of motorsport - important witness against charge 4, will inform the judge about Kay Lon's style of technical feedback)

Daniel Melrose

Masaji Shimada (Kay Lon's former and Nicolas Steele's current race engineer - in priniciple very loyal to Kamaha, didn't switch to Jones Racing despite having an option to do so, but follows Kay Lon's line of argumentation, partly because he has been working with him since 2010)
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Klon wrote:Maybe we should rename this thread. Post title is my proposal. :lol:


Accepted. Case overridden :D (I don't know how to change the name of a topic, though)

BTW what about Enoch? He's a lawyer, he could check this thread from time to time if he can to check proceedings :lol:
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Witnesses for the prosecution.

Barii Mori - Himself

Nicolas Steele - Current 2nd driver

Chris Dagnall - Team owner of the Dagnall Engineering race team that bought the trucks, factory and most of the equipment of the former Jones Racing team.

Phoenix McAllister - Driver and team owner who has had dealings with Jones

Matt Jenkins - Team manager of the Kamaha racing team, has been employed with the team since formation of the squad.

Simon Cakeole - Kay Lon's former and Nicolas Steele's current chief mechanic.

Nishi Takafuji - HR Manager for the Kamaha team.
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Phoenix wrote:(I don't know how to change the name of a topic, though)

I did that for the Johnny Claes Trophy. You just edit the first post of the thread and change the "Subject" line.
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It appears that the Tristan Jung scandal will require a court case quite soon.
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Phoenix wrote:
MCALLISTER TO SUE SAMMY JONES FOR DODGY DRIVING


Oh dear god! :lol:
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OT: Real lawyers should avoid this thread from now on, since I for my part plan on handling this process in "Law & Order" style. CHUNG-CHUNG!

Judge wrote:I hereby open the case Lon/Kamaha, Mr. Lon, how do you plead to charge number one: "Failing to perform 100% whilst testing and racing with Kamaha Motorsports (Formerly Kahama Motorsports)."

K. Lon wrote:Not guilty.

Judge wrote:Charge number two: "Slandering the team during and after leaving the team"

K. Lon wrote:Guilty.

Judge wrote:Now this is something different. Charge number three: "Taking trade secrets of the Kamaha (Kahama) Car to Jones Racing"

K. Lon wrote:Not guilty.

Judge wrote:And charge number four: "Giving false feedback during test sessions, thus hindering developement."

K. Lon wrote:Not guilty.

Judge wrote:Very well, thank you very much. We will now proceed with the first witness of the prosecution, Mr. Barii Mori.
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Phoenix McAllister wrote:Aren't the third and four charges exactly the same?
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Mr. Jenkins! Mr. Jenkins! Chip Rockefeller, BBC: How can Lon say he was under-performing if his car had one win and two podiums in four races? Is there something we don't know about during practice and testing for the F1 season, or perhaps in that fourth race that can attest to Mr. Lon's allegations? Or what about Jones Racing's own blurring the line between legal and illegal during the F1 season? Quite frankly, my reporter colleagues and I are quite confused as to what the situation in place is actually about... :roll:
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Rocks with Salt wrote:Mr. Jenkins! Mr. Jenkins! Chip Rockefeller, BBC: How can Lon say he was under-performing if his car had one win and two podiums in four races? Is there something we don't know about during practice and testing for the F1 season, or perhaps in that fourth race that can attest to Mr. Lon's allegations? Or what about Jones Racing's own blurring the line between legal and illegal during the F1 season? Quite frankly, my reporter colleagues and I are quite confused as to what the situation in place is actually about... :roll:


Well what's about to happen is Lon and Mori are going to get into deep s*** from the F1RWRS Council :lol:
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Kay Lon demands to cease proceedings

Kay Lon's lawyer has announced his intention to request discountinuing the trial, basing the request on Kamaha's failure to arrange any statements of their witnesses so far. "This stalling is unneeded and shows just how ridiculous their case is," the German lawman said to the press. It remains to be seen whether this proposal will meet with open ears and/or get Kamaha's law department to get their act together.
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Case dropped. See F1RWRS '14 thread for details. Original post available upon request. ;)
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