2011 Canadian Grand Prix Discussion Thread

Jonouchi · Post by **Jonouchi** » 12 Jun 2011, 14:08

I definitely think that Sauber have a chance of overtaking Renault now if the blown engine is banned, maybe even Mercedes.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 12 Jun 2011, 14:19

I think some of you are really overestimating the effect of the blown engine, or diffusers, or whatever. Remembers me of when traction control was introduced mid-season in 2001 and of when it was banned for 2008.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 12 Jun 2011, 14:54

Apparently there's still a lot of rain at the circuit - I really hope they don't wimp out and start behind the SC

pablo_h · Post by **pablo_h** » 12 Jun 2011, 14:59

I'm hyped. Now: delayed telecast of motoGP. In 2 hours, F1 Canada. Spent all afternoon watching Le Mans too.

My sympathies to those in the eastern states that don't have the 1am start time that I do for the F1.

ibsey · Post by **ibsey** » 12 Jun 2011, 15:24

I was just thinking, in the case of a wet GP, might some teams (i.e. RBR maybe others) be better off taking their KERS unit out of their car altogether?

I say this beacause of the benefits of better braking stability that you get without KERS (which I would want in wet conditions). Obviously you would lose the benefits of KERS out of the corners, but as RBR don't get the full advantages of Kers as they only operate their KERS at 40 Kwtts (about a 1/3 less than other teams) & are suffering reability problems on their unit. Maybe they would be better off taking their unit out & instead taking the benefit of better braking stability?

I would certainly looking into it if I was them. Also Hamilton apparently has an issue with his car (other than the wrong setup/lack of top speed) which might indicate a Kers problem, so maybe he would be well advised to look at taking it out also. For instance remember Kobayashi's near spin at T9 during Quali underbraking. I reckon we could see alot more incidents like that partly due to the effect of Kers underbraking (particularly on cold tyres after a SC).

Valrys wrote:Apparently there's still a lot of rain at the circuit - I really hope they don't wimp out and start behind the SC

Completely agree!!! I really hate all this SC because of a little bit of spary business. Fair enough if their is aquaplanning, but these days I really think they throw out the SC too easly on a wet track.

We need drivers to run in difficult conditions to enable the talented drivers to shine through. Scary thought here...but just imagine if races like Canada 1981 would have been santised (via SC or red flags etc), would we have got to see such a legendary performance by Gilles Villeneueve that day? I think not.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 12 Jun 2011, 15:29

On D'Ambrosio, Timo Glock said on the BBC the Virgin team had put a full wet setup on the car. Virgin probably argued that if they had put a dry setup on the car D'Ambrosio would have been quick enough, and that in a wet race they'll have more than enough pace to justify qualifying for the race.

On the race, I hope the drivers don't weasel out and complain its too wet to race. I don't want to see another Korea and have a race that lasts 3 hours.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 12 Jun 2011, 15:48

yeah baby yeah

http://yfrog.com/h3xv8lhj

just to add doesn't look like going away, so both Mcl, Mercs, Rubinio and Tim O'Glock with full wet setup worth watching

Post by **mario** » 12 Jun 2011, 15:59

Debaser wrote:On D'Ambrosio, Timo Glock said on the BBC the Virgin team had put a full wet setup on the car. Virgin probably argued that if they had put a dry setup on the car D'Ambrosio would have been quick enough, and that in a wet race they'll have more than enough pace to justify qualifying for the race.

On the race, I hope the drivers don't weasel out and complain its too wet to race. I don't want to see another Korea and have a race that lasts 3 hours.

It wasn't just the regular drivers who were complaining, though. Even Bernd Mylander was complaining of a lack of grip and visibility, particularly rearward visibility; his main concern was that he could not tell where the other drivers were, and that somebody might run into the back of him.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:02

well it's 100% wet wet wet

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:03

I have to say the BBC's opening intro sucked!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:05

S951 wrote:yeah baby yeah

http://yfrog.com/h3xv8lhj

just to add doesn't look like going away, so both Mcl, Mercs, Rubinio and Tim O'Glock with full wet setup worth watching

that's the 5live commentary box isn't it? The race is in one hour, so it's going to be a wet start

. I just HOPE they start without the bloody SC.

Keep an eye out on Force India too. We know Sutil has good record in wet conditions (scored his first and Spyker's only point in wet Fuji) and I think Di Resta has had rain experience too.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say Canada will be best race of the year.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:05

sswishbone wrote:I have to say the BBC's opening intro sucked!

It was bloody annoying!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:06

Yes!! Rain.

Hopefully we will see someone apart from "The Finger" win for once. I'd even like to see Alonso win which is saying something!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:06

S951 wrote:well it's 100% wet wet wet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQ6SfPZggw

Their first song I could think of.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:07

Special champion?

Way-hay.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:08

I hope it is a start not behind safety car, be very interesting to the first corners

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:09

Lotus to score points here today, you heard it here first.

And No, I don't mean Lotus Renault GP, Heidfeld and Petrov could well score points, but I don't mean them.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:09

does anyone know if hrt went for a wet or dry setup? either way 3 people I know with wet setup that I am looking forward to Glock, Rubinio and Schuey

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:10

Canada, wet, the season so far... This had better live up to all those ingredients!

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:13

Even with D'ambrosio allowed, we'll still have a 23 car grid - Algie's doing a pitlane start.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:14

Mclaren have a semi-wet setup, more wing than those in front

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:15

GwilymJJames wrote:Even with D'ambrosio allowed, we'll still have a 23 car grid - Algie's doing a pitlane start.

Probably a very smart move, being Canada!

Also, seems even Jake Humphrey seems to be getting bored of the Vettel steamroller, judging by his (re)action...

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:21

With the pit exit where it is, should there be an accident he will be quids in as he misses the entire corner, he might have unrejectified himself from this race

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:21

Collieafc wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:Even with D'ambrosio allowed, we'll still have a 23 car grid - Algie's doing a pitlane start.

Probably a very smart move, being Canada!

Also, seems even Jake Humphrey seems to be getting bored of the Vettel steamroller, judging by his (re)action...

I support Red Bull and I'm getting a bit bored of the Vettel steamroller...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:24

Think glock is looking good too. Not the worst driver in the wet.

Jonouchi · Post by **Jonouchi** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:31

Timo does have a good history in the wet (hello, Malaysia '09), but I had to laugh at the BBC guys suggesting Jaime was getting a massive jump on people by setting up for the wet and likening it to Vettel in Monza. That Toro Rosso was certainly a different car to the one that Jaime is in now...and the drivers might have a bit of a quality difference too. It's also completely thrown out if they start behind the safety car, since Jaime wouldn't get the advantage of an incident at the first corner.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:51

no no no!! bloody starting behind sc!!!!

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:51

Safety Car Start.....

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:52

Safety Car start? Wimps!

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:52

Safety car start.

WHY THE bathplug ARE THEY DOING THAT????? :evil:

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:53

lame as all crap that, Jamie's gamble has backfired, no advantage now

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:57

bathplug off, safety car start? Bunch of bathplug wimps.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:58

I know this is the wrong thread for it but I am pre-empting a Safety Car start for my Reject Of The Race

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Jun 2011, 16:59

Total bullshit. Ruins an epic start.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:00

Chandhok says Team Lotus have just updated to say rain expected in 40 minutes

And they're off! They're off! They're off! Amazing start by Mylander in the SLS... Sorry trying to liven things up

Jonouchi · Post by **Jonouchi** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:01

Mercedes believe it's in 15 minutes, so somewhere between Mercedes and Lotus there's a lot of discrepancy...

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:04

Lol Safety car drifting, that's awesome!

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:04

Ferrari say 15-20. Seems its closer than first reckoned...

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:05

Oh, get racing you pussies!!

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 12 Jun 2011, 17:06

Chandhok is with Hamilton and says to get them racing

end of this lap, get in!

hamilton to get a penalty, no doubt about it