Grand Prix Rejects

f1-gast wrote:I don't mind if HRT doesn't show up on the grid in 2011.
The team is just 2 slow.

And with a team manager as Kolles naah that's the guy who should get banned for life for any kind of autosport/motorsport.
He does it just for the money he will sell HRT, it's the same as with Jordan,Midland, and Spyker he just destroy it.

But senna should also leave the f1 he is just there because of his name, he isn't a great driver at all.

JeremyMcClean wrote:
I think we should give a trophy for the best driver in the new teams just to give them credit. That's probably what they'll earn at the highest rate, anyways!

Captain Hammer wrote:Reports out of Spain claim Epsilon Euskadi is considering merging with HRT next year as HRT have not finalised an arrangement to build their 2011 car.

Old news. Predicted it six months ago.

DonTirri wrote:

JeremyMcClean wrote:
I think we should give a trophy for the best driver in the new teams just to give them credit. That's probably what they'll earn at the highest rate, anyways!

We already do. It's called the Andrea Montermini cup, proprieted by yours truly. It has just sunk to the abyss of PS memorial forum due to no races in several weeks

kostas22 wrote:

Captain Hammer wrote:Reports out of Spain claim Epsilon Euskadi is considering merging with HRT next year as HRT have not finalised an arrangement to build their 2011 car.

Old news. Predicted it six months ago.

Or rather, they've just seen the logic as well and made up the story. You know how it is with the Spanish Press, printing completely made up stories that just make sense as a concept, hoping they turn out to be right and claim they managed a massive 'scoop'.

Etc etc...what's the bloody point, neither will have a car ready for 2011 anyway.

RLeb wrote:With every passing day, we are now getting to the point that even the best-prepared potential team would not be ready for 2011.

I don't understand why the FIA doesn't bump everything up several months and have a candidate chosen by April or May. Then the team can really hammer down. If anyone is chosen now, they will almost certainly putt around at the tail end of the grid, a la HRT with little or no time to get funding or stuff done. Is that what they really want?

eagleash wrote:Senna thinking he might have made a duff decision? Really?
20/20 hindsight. A wonderful thing!

mario wrote:

Phoenix wrote:I think HRT has virtually given up any hopes of climbing up the order ever since the beginning of the season. They mainly aim to survive only, and that means they have to take Yamamoto because he brings money. However, I don't know if Klien is bringing money as well. So, HRT has no future unless they can find potential sponsors apart from the one the drivers are already bringing in. I can't do nothing but think that at least Senna would've been better in GP2 until better offers arose.

I half wonder if Bruno is thinking the same thing - if he had stayed in GP2, and been a championship contender (or even won the title), it might have given him a chance of landing a drive in a slightly better team - or, at the very least, next year, he could have entered with one of the better new teams (either Lotus or Virgin Racing, as they at least look as if they are not only interested in surviving, but improving their position - Lotus is already actively developing the 2011 car, and Virgin is working on both this years car and next years - and bear in mind that Virgin has got a budget which is only marginally bigger than HRT, it is rumoured).
On the other hand, at the time he signed for the team, he must have thought that the team had some potential - after all, he signed up when all was harmonious between Dallara and Campos (at the time), and it looked as if the team had reasonable backing.

coops wrote:

eagleash wrote:Senna thinking he might have made a duff decision? Really?
20/20 hindsight. A wonderful thing!

Yeah, as if at the start of the season he thought he had a chance of winning points or something.

eagleash wrote:Needs to be taken in context. I was really pointing out that Phoenix & Mario were stating the obvious.

coops wrote:

eagleash wrote:Needs to be taken in context. I was really pointing out that Phoenix & Mario were stating the obvious.

<hangs head>

eagleash wrote:

coops wrote:

eagleash wrote:Needs to be taken in context. I was really pointing out that Phoenix & Mario were stating the obvious.

<hangs head>

Not at all old boy.....

coops wrote:Is anybody even interested in signing Senna for next year?

JeremyMcClean wrote:

DonTirri wrote:

JeremyMcClean wrote:
I think we should give a trophy for the best driver in the new teams just to give them credit. That's probably what they'll earn at the highest rate, anyways!

We already do. It's called the Andrea Montermini cup, proprieted by yours truly. It has just sunk to the abyss of PS memorial forum due to no races in several weeks

Thank you for telling me. Where is the link to that fourm anyway? I'll just post something random to bring it back up.

eagleash wrote:On this season's showing it's difficult to judge Bruno at all. He is probably better than we have seen so far, but quite some distance from top level. (As things stand). If he were to suddenly appear in Red Bull, Ferrari or McLaren, would he be close to the current incumbents?

thehemogoblin wrote:

RLeb wrote:With every passing day, we are now getting to the point that even the best-prepared potential team would not be ready for 2011.

I don't understand why the FIA doesn't bump everything up several months and have a candidate chosen by April or May. Then the team can really hammer down. If anyone is chosen now, they will almost certainly putt around at the tail end of the grid, a la HRT with little or no time to get funding or stuff done. Is that what they really want?

They're doing it so there's a good wave of publicity for the teams to ride in on, so that they're more likely to get sponsorship dollars. The longer gap between announcement and racing gives more time for sponsors to back out.

eagleash wrote:"A Toyota car winning". There's a phrase I wouldn't have put the mortgage on hearing today.

Waris wrote:

eagleash wrote:"A Toyota car winning". There's a phrase I wouldn't have put the mortgage on hearing today.

Well, you know, I was saying, in the case everyone was right about how good it was going to be, which isn't entirely improbable.

eagleash wrote:

Waris wrote:

eagleash wrote:"A Toyota car winning". There's a phrase I wouldn't have put the mortgage on hearing today.

Well, you know, I was saying, in the case everyone was right about how good it was going to be, which isn't entirely improbable.

Somewhat disingenuously...if it was as good as everyone says may be they shouldn't (or wouldn't) have quit.

Or maybe they would have had to recall it.

Cynon wrote:
At least we now understand why Toyota was always so crap at Monaco... a sticking throttle and narrow walls equals an Alessandro-Zampedri-esque pileup.