Grand Prix Rejects

fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

Wallio wrote:fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

When does Boro receive these?

Samster wrote:

Wallio wrote:fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

When does Boro receive these?

I need to come up with a price for it, that would work for both of us. (Project-4 gets the first upgrade as part of their contract) They will be available to you after the next race (same time Project-4 receives them). How is you're budget looking? You can PM me or answer on here, whatever works.

Teddy Mayer wrote:Excellent drive, Tom. Way to show those upstarts at Arrows how it's done!

300k on ground effects and 300k on rel for McLaren.

600k in reliability for us and 100k at grip, please

Shadow will spend 600k on reliability.

Wallio wrote:

Samster wrote:

Wallio wrote:fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

When does Boro receive these?

I need to come up with a price for it, that would work for both of us. (Project-4 gets the first upgrade as part of their contract) They will be available to you after the next race (same time Project-4 receives them). How is you're budget looking? You can PM me or answer on here, whatever works.

We have 512K left. We have enough for one more upgrade but we may spend it on a different aspect of the car.

ATS pay-driver RNG:

Aguri Suzuki:
1-5 shows interest
6-100 decides that he should better continue his career in Japanese F3
71, declines

George Eaton
Retired from racing since 1972, his chances aren't high.
1-2 shows interest
3-100 declines
47, declines

George Eaton
Retired from racing since 1973.
1-2 shows interest
3-100 declines
97, declines

Alex Soler-Roig
Retired from racing since 1972.
1-3 shows interest
4-100 declines
12, declines

Rolf Stommelen
Stommelen is successfully competing in various sportscar championships, and shows little interest to return to F1 in a backmarker team.
1-10 shows interest
11-100 declines
78, declines

Darn

andrew wrote:Darn

Well, Suzuki has just made the step from karting to F1, and most of the other drivers you mentioned were active in 1970, but had retired from motorsport for a long time by 1980.

Alfa upgrades

400k - Grip
200k - reliability

pi314159 wrote:

andrew wrote:Darn

Well, Suzuki has just made the step from karting to F1, and most of the other drivers you mentioned were active in 1970, but had retired from motorsport for a long time by 1980.

1 more to tonight, we will try for
Roberto moreno
Roberto guerro
Eliseo Salazar

They can bring what they can

andrew wrote:

pi314159 wrote:

andrew wrote:Darn

Well, Suzuki has just made the step from karting to F1, and most of the other drivers you mentioned were active in 1970, but had retired from motorsport for a long time by 1980.

1 more to tonight, we will try for
Roberto moreno
Roberto guerro
Eliseo Salazar

They can bring what they can

Salazar is already contracted to Wolf and has been for sometime now so the chances of you sort of getting him are nil at the moment.

I'd recommend looking at Formula Two drivers from 1980.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Europ ... Two_season

Samster wrote:I'd recommend looking at Formula Two drivers from 1980.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Europ ... Two_season

Cheers

Johnny checotto
Tom gloy
Teo fabi
Carlo Rossi

Again being what they can

Osella pours 600K into Top Speed

ok, next ATS pay-driver RNG:

Roberto Guerrero
He wasn't interested in Wolf or Boro, that's why the chances are low:
1-15 joins ATS
16-100 shows no interest
95, Guerrero isn't interested

Roberto Moreno has been refused a license due to insufficient experience

Tom Gloy:
1-70 joins ATS
71-100 focuses oon IndyCar career
96, bad luck for ATS

Carlo Rossi
1-85 joins ATS
86-100 doesn't join ATS
12, finally a driver
he offers 30 000

pi314159 wrote:ok, next ATS pay-driver RNG:

Roberto Guerrero
He wasn't interested in Wolf or Boro, that's why the chances are low:
1-15 joins ATS
16-100 shows no interest
95, Guerrero isn't interested

Roberto Moreno has been refused a license due to insufficient experience

Tom Gloy:
1-70 joins ATS
71-100 focuses oon IndyCar career
96, bad luck for ATS

Carlo Rossi
1-85 joins ATS
86-100 doesn't join ATS
12, finally a driver
he offers 30 000

We will give carlo Rossi the drive in San Marino in place of surer, what about the rng for checotto and fabi

andrew wrote:We will give carlo Rossi the drive in San Marino in place of surer, what about the rng for checotto and fabi

Cecotto (without h) and Fabi didn't even want to drive the ATS for money, why do you think they would pay for it then? And also, Rossi wants to do at least two races for his money. And there is no race in San Marino either.

pi314159 wrote:

andrew wrote:We will give carlo Rossi the drive in San Marino in place of surer, what about the rng for checotto and fabi

Cecotto (without h) and Fabi didn't even want to drive the ATS for money, why do you think they would pay for it then? And also, Rossi wants to do at least two races for his money. And there is no race in San Marino either.

Oops I meant mugello and monza in place of surer

andrew wrote:

pi314159 wrote:

andrew wrote:We will give carlo Rossi the drive in San Marino in place of surer, what about the rng for checotto and fabi

Cecotto (without h) and Fabi didn't even want to drive the ATS for money, why do you think they would pay for it then? And also, Rossi wants to do at least two races for his money. And there is no race in San Marino either.

Oops I meant mugello and monza in place of surer

Mugello and Imola. The Italian GP is held at Imola this season, and the European GP at Mugello.

After some attractive business propositions became available to us, Ligier has sent Clay Regazzoni on loan to March Racing for the rest of the season. In his place, the following drivers will pay for the privilege of driving for Ligier:

Piercarlo Ghinzani: $120k (Europe, Belgium, Monaco, Italy)
Corrado Fabi: $50k (France, Sweden)
Mike Thackwel: $20k (Great Britain)
Satoru Nakajima: $130k (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Japan)
Arie Luyendyk: $30k (Netherlands)
Roberto Guerrero: $50k (Canada, United States East)

1980 European Grand Prix - Pre-Qualifying:

1. Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) 1:37.491
2. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +0.076
3. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +0.084
4. Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +0.348
5. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +0.686
6. Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +1.215
7. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +1.669
8. Clay Regazzoni (March 801) +1.777
9. Derek Warwick (Boro 004) +2.228
10. Manfred Winkelhock (Kauhsen WK2) +2.450
11. Jacky Ickx (March 801) +2.483
12. Jochen Mass (Kauhsen WK2) +2.670
13. Eliseo Salazar (Wolf WR9) +4.541
14. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Wolf WR9) +4.757
15. Bruno Giacomelli (ATS D3) +5.003
16. Carlo Rossi (ATS D3) +6.599


1980 European Grand Prix - Qualifying:

1. Patrick Depailler (Arrows A3) 1:34.854
2. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A3) +0.100
3. James Hunt (McLaren M29) +0.306
4. Tom Pryce (McLaren M29) +0.336
5. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT49) +0.973
6. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07B) +0.985
7. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN11) +0:1.003
8. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN11) +1.067
9. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT49) +1.323
10. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07B) +1.961
11. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N180) +2.321
12. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11-15) +2.439
13. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T5) +2.488
14. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +2.497
15. Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T5) +2.509
16. Tom Sneva (Ensign N180) +2.705
17. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +2.793
18. Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) +2.806
19. Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +3.035
20. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Ligier JS11-15) +3.050
21. Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +3.162
22. Alain Prost (Renault RE20) +3.225
23. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) +3.263
24. Alan Jones (Renault RE20) +3.304
25. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +3.402
26. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +3.551
27. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR101) +3.609
28. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC7) +3.612
29. Mario Andretti (Penske PC7) +3.641
30. Niki Lauda (Lotus 81) +4.069
31. Brian Henton (Surtees TS21) +4.297
32. Jan Lammers (Tyrrell 010) +4.430
33. Rick Mears (Lotus 81) +4.468
34. Chris Amon (Surtees TS21) +4.668

Okay, we'll be glad to see the pre-qualifying group reset as none of the teams that beat us have any business still being in this session. As we seem to be quicker than March and Kaushen (and probably Surtees and Rebaque) with our professional drivers we have high hopes of making the race at Spa thanks to easier competition and a large grid.

Patrese in the Osella splitting the two Ferraris, most notably ahead of his replacement

A perfect qualification for us, let's hope we transform it in 1-2 in the race.

1980 European Grand Prix - Race:

For the first time, Formula 1 visited the Mugello Circuit in Italy. Earlier this year, boycott threats had resulted in the replacement of the South African GP with the European GP. Arrows locked out the front row, followed by the two McLarens. At the start, the Arrows stayed ahead of the McLarens, while the Shadows both passed Peterson. Depailler and Laffite were battling for the lead, while the two McLaren drivers were fighting for the last podium spot. The Shadows moved upp to 5th and 6th after passing the Brabham car of Scheckter.

After 7 laps, there was the first out of many engine failures. John Watson in the Project Four-BMW had to retire. Osella, after a promising qualifying, had a disappointing home race, as both cars retired within a few laps. At the front, the McLarens had closed the gap to the Arrows drivers, creating a four car battle for the lead. Hunt, Pryce and Laffite constantly changed positions, while Depailler started to drop back. Tambay also started to close the gap to the leaders. His teammate Johansson retired with another BMW engine failure.

Pryce had taken the lead, and started building a small gap, when his BMW engine exploded. He was out of the race, and the battle between Laffite and Hunt was suddenly for the lead again. But Hunt wasn't fast enough to challenge Laffite yet, and kept the gap constantly at 3 to 4 seconds. Tambay meanwhile had passed Depailler, and was just another three seconds behind Hunt.

The situation stayed the same at the front for some laps now, with none of the top three making any progress. Meanwhile, in the midfield, cars continued to drop out due to mechanical failures. That caused the fight between Reutemann and the two Ferraris to be for points, as they were running 5th to 7th now.

Tambay was now clearly the fastest driver in the field, and was chasing Hunt. For some 20 laps, Hunt managed to keep him behind, but then he made the pass and started to close the gap to Laffite. Laffite couldn't go the pace of the Shadow, who was reducing the gap by around 0.5-1 second per lap, and soon Tambay could be seen in his mirrors. He couldn't do much about Tambay, and the Shadow driver took the lead.

With 12 laps to go, Laffite's engine blew up. The top 6 remained unchanged for the rest of the race. Patrick Tambay scored the first race win of his career, and the first for the Shadow team as well. Hunt finished 2nd once again, and continued to extend his championship lead. Depailler finished third in the Arrows, and de Angelis scored another 4th place for Ferrari. Carlos Reutemann finally made it to the end of a race, and scored two well-deserved points for Ensign, and Gilles Villeneuve finished 6th in the Ferrari.

1. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN11) 69 Laps
2. James Hunt (McLaren M29) +6.847
3. Patrick Depailler (Arrows A3) +31.150
4. Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T5) +1 Laps
5. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N180) +1 Laps
6. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T5) +1 Laps
7. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11-15) +1 Laps
8. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Ligier JS11-15) +2 Laps
9. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +2 Laps
10. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +2 Laps
DNF Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT49) +12 Laps / Transmission
DNF Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +15 Laps / Accident
DNF Jacques Laffite (Arrows A3) +16 Laps / Engine
DNF Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR101) +29 Laps / Accident
DNF Alain Prost (Renault RE20) +33 Laps / Engine
DNF Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +36 Laps / Transmission
DNF Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07B) +43 Laps / Engine
DNF Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) +46 Laps / Suspension
DNF Tom Pryce (McLaren M29) +49 Laps / Engine
DNF Carlos Pace (Williams FW07B) +53 Laps / Brakes
DNF Alan Jones (Renault RE20) +53 Laps / Suspension
DNF Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN11) +55 Laps / Engine
DNF Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) +57 Laps / Accident
DNF Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +62 Laps / Oil Leak
DNF John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +62 Laps / Engine
DNF Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT49) +63 Laps / Brakes
DNF Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC7) +64 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Tom Sneva (Ensign N180) +66 Laps / Accident

Fastest Lap: Patrick Tambay (Shadow)

What was the air temperature! That's a ton of engine/gearbox failures..........

Great result for Shadow and McLaren though. 8 out of 12 podiums so far.

Congratulations to Shadow and Mclaren. We will invest 500k on ground effect and 100k on reliability for next race to challenge Mclaren harder.

300k on ground effects and 300k on top speed, please.

Brabham will invest 600k on reliability, and 600k in grip.

Tyrrell will get 500k for grip and 200k for acceleration/topspeed for next race

Goddamnit Daly, you only had to keep it out of the walls and you'd have got points.

With that. Project 4 will invest 300k on grip and 300k on top speed.

600K reliability for Osella, please.

Samster wrote:

Wallio wrote:fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

When does Boro receive these?

I can sell them to you for 50K an engine, if your interested.

Wallio wrote:

Samster wrote:

Wallio wrote:fabulous 1-2! Six of the first 9 podiums have come from BMW powered cars! Excellent. As promised, our "Stika-Spec" motors will be delivered to McLaren and Shadow immediately. Project-4 will get them after the next race. These new spec will hopefully solve our thirst issue. Heil to ze championship!

When does Boro receive these?

I can sell them to you for 50K an engine, if your interested.

Okay, we will purchase the upgrade for both engines.

Renault Works Team will invest another 100k for reliability and hopefully that will be the last of the upgrades we will need to do.

We wont be upgrading the engine for now.

1980 Belgian GP - Pre-qualifying:

1. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) 2:09.241
2. Thierry Boutsen (Rebaque HR101) +0.702
3. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +2.016
4. Clay Regazzoni (March 801) +2.090
5. Jacky Ickx (March 801) +2.318
6. Derek Warwick (Boro 004) +2.385
7. Jochen Mass (Kauhsen WK2) +2.578
8. Manfred Winkelhock (Kauhsen WK2) +2.626
9. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Wolf WR9) +4.806
10. Eliseo Salazar (Wolf WR9) +5.096
11. Bruno Giacomelli (ATS D3) +5.570
12. Marc Surer (ATS D3) +6.254

1980 Belgian GP - Qualifying:

1. James Hunt (McLaren M29) 2:05.308
2. Tom Pryce (McLaren M29) +0.196
3. Patrick Depailler (Arrows A3) +0.632
4. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A3) +0.686
5. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN11) +1.761
6. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07B) +1.980
7. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN11) +2.140
8. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT49) +2.246
9. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT49) +2.293
10. Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) +2.380
11. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07B) +2.558
12. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +2.981
13. Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T5) +3.195
14. Tom Sneva (Ensign N180) +3.201
15. Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +3.202
16. Alan Jones (Renault RE20) +3.242
17. Alain Prost (Renault RE20) +3.275
18. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11-15) +3.492
19. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N180) +3.572
20. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +3.771
21. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +3.788
22. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T5) +3.807
23. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Ligier JS11-15) +4.128
24. Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +4.128
25. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) +4.175
26. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +4.216
27. Chris Amon (Surtees TS21) +4.620
28. Jan Lammers (Tyrrell 010) +4.654
29. Thierry Boutsen (Rebaque HR101) +4.681
30. Niki Lauda (Lotus 81) +4.919
31. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +4.928
32. Clay Regazzoni (March 801) +5.003
33. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC7) +5.025
34. Brian Henton (Surtees TS21) +5.240
35. Mario Andretti (Penske PC7) +5.453
36. Rick Mears (Lotus 81) +5.582
37. Derek Warwick (Boro 004) +5.837
38. Jacky Ickx (March 801) +5.962

Yea Boro!

Yeah, finally got into a race! Well done Rene, this is why we made the gamble to pay you. And we beat a Lotus and both Penskes too!

Now all you need to do is finish and we will have Kaushen beat for the season.