1980 Alternate F1 - Season final at Suzuka up

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2014, 11:25

Rules

Teams:
Unconfirmed entries are shown in orange, entries without a manager are shown in red.

McLaren
Manager: Salamander
Budget: 11.041.500
Spending limit: 600.000
Debt Limit: 8.250.000
Chassis: McLaren M29
Engine: BMW

Ligier
Manager: Wizzie
Budget: 3.900.000
Spending limit: 2.400.000
Debt Limit: 7.500.000
Chassis: Ligier JS11/15
Engine: Ferrari

Brabham
Manager: pasta_maldonado
Budget: 8.209.995
Spending limit: 1.300.000
Debt Limit: 6.750.000
Chassis: Brabham BT49
Engine: Matra

Arrows
Manager: pycku
Budget: 5.509.000
Spending limit: 3.000.000
Debt Limit: 6.375.000
Chassis: Arrows A3
Engine: Renault

Williams
Manager: Hermann95
Budget: 6.560.000
Spending limit: 2.700.000
Debt Limit: 6.600.000
Chassis: Williams FW07B
Engine: Matra

Shadow
Manager: kevinbotz
Budget: 3.299.000
Spending limit: 3.600.000
Debt Limit: 5.625.000
Chassis: Shadow DN12
Engine: BMW

Lotus
Manager: Phoenix
Budget: 10.275.000
Spending limit: 8.400.000
Debt Limit: 5.250.000
Chassis: Lotus 81
Engine: Renault

Ferrari
Manager: takagi_for_the_win
Budget: 6.504.000
Spending limit: 2.400.000
Debt Limit: 4.875.000
Chassis: Ferrari 312T5
Engine: Ferrari

Tyrrell
Manager: FantometteBR
Budget: 2.842.500
Spending limit: 3.200.000
Debt Limit: 4.125.000
Chassis: Tyrrell 010
Engine: Cosworth

Ensign
Manager: SeedStriker
Budget: 3.535.000
Spending limit: 6.100.000
Debt Limit: 3.750.000
Chassis: Ensign N180
Engine: Ferrari

Penske
Manager: team defunct
Budget: 3.262.500
Spending limit: 8.400.000
Debt Limit: 4.500.000
Chassis: Penske PC8
Engine: Cosworth

Renault
Manager: CaptainGetz12
Budget: 2.620.000
Spending limit: 4.500.000
Debt Limit: 3.375.000
Chassis: Renault RE20
Engine: Renault

Surtees
Manager: UgncreativeUsergname
Budget: 575.000
Spending limit: 7.500.000
Debt Limit: 3.000.000
Chassis: Surtees TS21
Engine: Cosworth

Rebaque
Manager: SuperAguri
Budget: 1.867.000
Spending limit: 6.000.000
Debt Limit: 2.625.000
Chassis: Rebaque HR101
Engine: Cosworth

Alfa Romeo
Manager: peteroli34
Budget: 35.000
Spending limit: 1.300.000
Debt Limit: 4.050.000
Chassis: Alfa Romeo 180
Engine: Alfa Romeo

March
Manager: Nuppiz
Budget: 2.199.000
Spending limit: 3.600.000
Debt Limit: 1.875.000
Chassis: March 801
Engine: Matra

Wolf
Manager: team defunct
Budget: -1.500.000
Spending limit: 8.400.000
Debt Limit: 1.500.000
Chassis: Wolf WR11
Engine: Matra

Kauhsen
Manager: This? normal32?
Budget: -1.103.750
Spending limit: 3.800.000
Debt Limit: 1.125.000
Chassis: Kauhsen WK2
Engine: Ferrari

Boro
Manager: Samster
Budget: 186.250
Spending limit: 3.600.000
Debt Limit: 750.000
Chassis: Boro 004
Engine: BMW

ATS Wolf
Manager: This
Budget: 124.000
Spending limit: 7.788.000
Debt Limit: 375.000
Chassis: ATS D3
Engine: Alfa Romeo

Osella
Manager: Biscione
Budget: 510.000
Spending limit: 1.600.000
Debt Limit: 1.500.000
Chassis: Osella FA1
Engine: Ferrari

Project Four
Manager: East Londoner
Budget: 3.635.000
Spending limit: 3.300.000
Debt Limit: 1.500.000
Chassis: Project Four P4-1
Engine: BMW

Engine Manufacturers:

Renault
Renault-Alpine EF2
Budget: 660.000
Manager: Captain_Getz12
1.5 L V6 Turbo Engine
2.5 Million spent on power
1.3 Million spent on fuel efficiency
2.0 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 290.000

BMW
BMW M12/13
Budget: 580.000
Manager: Wallio
1.5 L I4 Turbo Engine
2.1 Million spent on power
1.3 Million spent on fuel efficiency
2.5 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 260.000

Ferrari
Budget: 400.000
Manager: takagi_for_the_win
Ferrari 015
3.0 L Flat-12 normally aspirated engine
2.75 Million spent on power
1.25 Million spent on fuel efficiency
1.5 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 275.000

Alfa Romeo
Alfa Romeo 679T
Budget: 740.000
Manager: peteroli34
1.5 L V6 Turbo Engine
1.7 Million spent on power
1.4 Million spent on fuel efficiency
1.4 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 225.000

Cosworth
Ford Cosworth DFV
Budget: 63.000
Manager: Salamander
Normally aspirated 3.0 L V8
2.7 Million spent on power
1.8 Million spent on fuel consumption
1.4 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 295.000

Matra
Matra MS79
Budget: 570.000
Manager: Hermann95
1.5 L V6 Turbo Engine
1.8 Million spent on power
1 Million spent on fuel efficiency
2 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 240.000

BRM
BRM P216t
Budget: 0
Manager: Nuppiz
1.5 L V6 Turbo Engine
1.0 Million spent on power
0.0 Million spent on fuel efficiency
0.0 Million spent on reliability
Building cost: 50.000

Sponsors:

Tier 1:
Marlboro 6.000.000
elf: 5.500.000
Martini 5.000.000
John Player Special 4.500.000
Gitanes 4.000.000
Parmalat 4.000.000
Saudia 4.000.000
Lavazza 3.500.000
Essex 3.500.000
Olympus 3.500.000
Warsteiner 3.000.000
Unipart: 3.000.000
Copersucar 2.750.000
Skol: 2.500.000
FINA 2.500.000
Beta Utensili 2.250.000
Denim: 2.000.000

Tier 2:
Agip 600.000 (x2)
Elf 600.000
Leyland 600.000
TAG 500.000
Löwenbräu 500.000
Marlboro 500.000 (x2)
Texaco 500.000
Villinger 500.000
Castrol 500.000 (x2)
HB Bewaking Alarmsystemen 500.000
Mopar 400.000
Longines: 400.000
Arawak 400.000
Fina: 400.000 (x2)
Carta Blanca 375.000
Cynar: 350.000
Candy: 350.000
F&S: 300.000
Olympus: 300.000 (x2)
Scaini: 300.000
Sony: 300.000
Buler: 300.000
Tabatip: 250.000
Fujitsu: 250.000
Shell: 250.000
Fruit of the Loom 250.000
Gulf 200.000
Murjani: 200.000

Tier 3:
Castrol 150.000 (x3)
Magneti Marelli 150.000 (x3)
Norev 150.000
Valvoline 150.000
Hotel Freeport 125.000
Heuer 125.000
ABMTM 125.000
personal 125.000
arexons 125.000
Champion 125.000 (x3)
Heyco 125.000
Air Press 100.000
Norton 100.000
NGK 100.000
Europcar 100.000
Chausson 100.000
Ferodo 100.000 (x2)
Tissot 75.000
Rodacciai 75.000
brembo 75.000
Kroymans 75.000
Schmitthelm 50.000
SKP 50.000
Koni 50.000 (x3)

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2014, 11:26

Repost from the 1979 thread:

A first calendar draft for 1980:

1. Argentine GP (Buenos Aires)
2. Brazilian GP (Interlagos)
3. United States West GP (Long Beach)
4. South African GP (Kyalami)
5. Belgian GP (Spa-Francorchamps or Zolder)
6. Moncao GP (Monaco)
7. French GP (Circuit Paul Ricard)
8. British GP (Brands Hatch)
9. Swedish GP (Mantorp Park)
10. German GP (Hockenheim)
11. Austrian GP (Österreichring)
12. Swiss GP (Dijon-Prenois)
13. Dutch GP (Zandvoort)
14. Italian GP (Monza)
15. Canadian GP (Montreal)
16. United States East GP (Watkins Glen)
17. Japanese GP (Suzuka)

Also, three rule changes for 1980:

1) Reintroduction of entry fees:
An entry fee of 10 000 credits per car and race will be introduced.

2) Change of budget cap rule:
Instead of 2.4 million per quarter, the budget cap is increased by 600 000 credits after each race, starting at 2.4 million for the off-season.

3) As I said a while back in the 1979 thread, each team may only express interest in a maximum of 5 Tier 1 sponsors, 8 Tier 2 sponsors and 12 Tier 3 sponsors.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 17 Jan 2014, 12:18

Wolf would like to express an interest for entering this season.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 17 Jan 2014, 12:32

Guy Ligier is looking forward to 1980, as he feels it's our best chance as a title yet.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 17 Jan 2014, 12:45

Arrows are still in the game and after disapointing 1979 season we are hoping to climb up the ladder once again.

Is there any changes in sponsors or they will stay the same (and in the same tier) as last year? Additionally if you have signed a sponsor in 1979 will there be an advantage in the RNG to resign it?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2014, 12:47

pycku wrote:Arrows are still in the game and after disapointing 1979 season we are hoping to climb up the ladder once again.

Is there any changes in sponsors or they will stay the same (and in the same tier) as last year? Additionally if you have signed a sponsor in 1979 will there be an advantage in the RNG to resign it?

I'll post the sponsor list and everything else shortly after the 1979 Japanese GP has been run.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 17 Jan 2014, 12:51

Tyrrell will make its try to make a less crappier season at 1980

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 17 Jan 2014, 13:21

Surtees will be around for 1980 if we don't go bust.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 17 Jan 2014, 14:08

Williams is looking forward to 1980 and is hoping to make the next step: winning a race. That's what we aiming for in 1980 and to stay in the top 5 of the constructors championship.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 17 Jan 2014, 14:52

Ensign will seek to recover from a lackluster 79

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jan 2014, 15:09

McLaren is most keen to get to 1980 and once again claim our rightful place in Formula 1.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 17 Jan 2014, 15:44

Boro look forward to 1980 and actually making a race or two.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 17 Jan 2014, 16:11

BMW is looking to supply our full alottment of 6 teams with what was without question the best motor of 1979. We hope to continue on with all of our current teams, except for Kaushen, but that's all for the negociation phase.

Post by **kevinbotz** » 17 Jan 2014, 16:26

Shadow aim to maintain our momentum into 1980.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:12

Alfa Romeo look to 1980 and hope to improve on our 1979 performance we also try and attract more teams to run Alfa power in 1980

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:18

Brabham is back again to try and build on a successful year, by beating Ligier

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:23

What's this Project Four team?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:24

Samster wrote:What's this Project Four team?

A formula 2 team who merged with McLaren in real-life. But as McLaren is very successful in this alternate universe, the merger didn't make sense, so they entered F1 on their own.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:26

pi314159 wrote:
Samster wrote:What's this Project Four team?

A formula 2 team who merged with McLaren in real-life. But as McLaren is very successful in this alternate universe, the merger didn't make sense, so they entered F1 on their own.

More competition for making races, well as long as they are less competitive than Boro.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 17 Jan 2014, 18:42

I'll still run ATS

Post by **Nuppiz** » 17 Jan 2014, 19:36

March will continue in 1980, hopefully with more funds to develop the car.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2014, 20:30

Ferrari will look to bounce back to the top of the sport, where they rightfully belong, in 1980.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 17 Jan 2014, 21:37

Kauhsen confirms
The car will be called WK2

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 18 Jan 2014, 12:57

The 1980 Alt-F1 season, now with fully-functioning wiki page: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1980_Virtual_F1_Season

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Jan 2014, 13:01

The sponsor list can now be found in the first post. Please keep in mind that you can only express interest in up to 5 tier 1 sponsors, 8 tier 2 sponsors and 12 tier 3 sponsors.

Works teams can take 4 500 000 credits from their manufacturer instead of a tier one sponsor.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 18 Jan 2014, 13:13

Rebaque are boycotting the South African GP and urge other teams to join them.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Jan 2014, 13:15

SuperAguri wrote:Rebaque are boycotting the South African GP and urge other teams to join them.

McLaren will be joining the boycott.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Jan 2014, 13:46

Brabham's sponsorship plans:

Tier 1
Martini
Parmalat
Saudia
Lavazza
Essex

Tier 2
Agip
Leyland
Löwenbräu
Marlboro
Texaco
Villinger
Castrol
Longines

Tier 3
Castrol
Magneti Marelli
Norev
Hotel Freeport
Heuer
ABMTM
personal
arexons
Champion
Heyco
Air Press
Norton

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:03

Salamander wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Rebaque are boycotting the South African GP and urge other teams to join them.

McLaren will be joining the boycott.

Out of character for a moment, did I miss something? Is this because of the new rules, or apartheid?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:08

March would like to negotiate with the following sponsors:

Tier 1
Elf
Gitanes
Olympus
Unipart
Beta Utensili

Tier 2
TAG
Mopar
Arawak
Carta Blanca
Cynar
Löwenbräu
F&S
Candy

Tier 3
Personal
Magneti Marelli
Norev
Heyco
Heuer
ABMTM
Chausson
Ferodo
Champion
Koni
Europcar
NGK

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:10

Wallio wrote:Out of character for a moment, did I miss something? Is this because of the new rules, or apartheid?

Apartheid. The Rebaque team was disgusted with what they saw and are boycottng the GP. We urge FISA to go to Dubai or Australia or just to cancel the race.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:15

Brabham would like to announce that we will be competing in the South African Grand Prix, and ask FISA do not bend over backwards to meet the ludicrous demands of a minute proportion of teams.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:18

We are not messing politics with sport so we are against boycotting Kyalami.

As for sponsors, Arrows is still a top team, so we are aiming top sponsors:

Tier 1
Marlboro
elf:
Martini
John Player Special
Gitanes

Tier 2
Agip
Elf
Leyland
Marlboro
Texaco
Villinger
Castrol
HB Bewaking Alarmsystemen

Tier 3

Castrol
Magneti Marelli
Norev
Valvoline
Hotel Freeport
Heuer
ABMTM
Personal
Arexons
Champion
Heyco
Air Press

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:23

Tier 1
ELF
FINA

Tier 2
Agip
Candy

Tier 3
Castrol
NGK
Koni
SKP
Brembo
Europe car

We will also attend South Africa

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:37

Boro will express their desire to not bring ugly politics into the sport and will race at Kyalami. Though if other teams wish to boycott then more power to them as it gives us a better chance of making the race. 8-)

Sponsor Bids

Tier 1
Gitanes
Parmalat
Warsteiner
FINA
Beta Utensili

Tier 2
Elf
Marlboro
Texaco
Castrol
HB Bewaking Alarmsystemen
Mopar
Fujitsu
Fruit of the Loom

Tier 3
Castrol
Magneti Marelli
Norev
Valvoline
Heuer
Norton
Europcar
Ferodo
Tissot
Schmitthelm
Koni

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 18 Jan 2014, 14:42

Osella sponsors

Tier 1:
Parmalat 4.000.000
Lavazza 3.500.000
Warsteiner 3.000.000
FINA 2.500.000
Denim: 2.000.000

Tier 2:
Agip 600.000 (x2)
Marlboro 500.000 (x2)
Longines: 400.000
Fina: 400.000 (x2)
Candy: 350.000
Olympus: 300.000 (x2)
Fujitsu: 250.000
Murjani: 200.000

Tier 3:
Magneti Marelli 150.000 (x3)
Norev 150.000
arexons 125.000
Champion 125.000 (x3)
Norton 100.000
Europcar 100.000
Chausson 100.000
Ferodo 100.000 (x2)
Tissot 75.000
Rodacciai 75.000
brembo 75.000
Koni 50.000 (x3)

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 18 Jan 2014, 15:18

SuperAguri wrote:
Wallio wrote:Out of character for a moment, did I miss something? Is this because of the new rules, or apartheid?

Apartheid. The Rebaque team was disgusted with what they saw and are boycottng the GP. We urge FISA to go to Dubai or Australia or just to cancel the race.

Ah, that makes sense. Being only an engine supplier, BMW will leave the decision up to our teams, whoever they might be IN 1980. Although that being said we are against the horrors of apartheid. But if our teams want to race, we race!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 18 Jan 2014, 15:20

Ensign

Tier 1:
Martini
Parmalat
Olympus
Warsteiner
FINA

Tier 2
Leyland
TAG
Castrol
Mopar
Candy
Sony
Fujitsu
Gulf

Tier 3:
Magneti Marelli
Norev
Hotel Freeport
Heuer
Champion
Air Press
Norton
NGK
Tissot
Koni
Brembo
Kroymans

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 18 Jan 2014, 17:08

For South African Boycott against apartheid : McLaren, Rebaque, Lotus, Ensign, Wolf

Wait and see : Shadow, Tyrrell, Project 4

Against Boycott : Brabham, Arrows, ATS, Boro, Osella, Alfa Romeo, LIgier, Ferrari, Surtees, Kauhsen, Penske

No comment so far : Williams, Renault, March

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 18 Jan 2014, 17:20

While we desire to run as a competitive outfit, Ensign will not abide the apartheid in any way possible. We join the boycott against the South African government.