Provisional 2009 Reject of the Year

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 14 Jun 2009, 22:45

I know this may be frowned upon but I have decided to start a provisional Reject of the Year Podium.

The early contenders are:

Nelson Piquet Jr
Kazuki Nakajima
BMW Sauber
Mclaren Mercedes
Sebastien Bourdais
Ferrari are a possibility but have probably shaken off chances of the ROTY Podium by now

My Provisional podium is:

3rd - Sebastien Bourdais
2nd - BMW Sauber
1st - Nelson Piquet Jr

Feel free to express your opinions.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Jun 2009, 08:00

Surely it ought to be Honda for failing to get any branding on the Brawn at all. Even if were only a small H on the tip of the nosecone... :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Jun 2009, 09:18

Not a very serious contender but what about Sebastian Vettel's staragist:
Spain: Vettel lost potential 2nd and only inherited 4th by defaults because of a very conservative stratagy
Monaco: Vettel compounded what turned out (in hindsight) to be a poor stratagy choice
Turkey: Vettel lost 2nd to Webber by a 3 stop stratagy that was almost never going to work

If his stratagist keeps going at this rate he might be ROTR by Abu Dhabi

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 15 Jun 2009, 14:46

i think williams is also a potential candidate so far. Continual promise and car speed early in the weekend, but not translated into any decent results.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 15 Jun 2009, 19:46

Wizzie wrote:Not a very serious contender but what about Sebastian Vettel's staragist:
Spain: Vettel lost potential 2nd and only inherited 4th by defaults because of a very conservative stratagy
Monaco: Vettel compounded what turned out (in hindsight) to be a poor stratagy choice
Turkey: Vettel lost 2nd to Webber by a 3 stop stratagy that was almost never going to work

If his stratagist keeps going at this rate he might be ROTR by Abu Dhabi

I'm with you. And I want to nominate McLaren as well, is that OK?

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 15 Jun 2009, 22:06

Surely F1 politics is the winner hands down???

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 15 Jun 2009, 22:20

Debaser wrote:Surely F1 politics is the winner hands down???

It might deserve it. But I'm not ready to give it that much importance.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 17 Jun 2009, 14:37

It's still too early to say who will be given the site's prestigious award at the end of the season.
And as always, the award will be having to do something with pre-season expectations. Hence, Piquet isn't really performing towards getting the award, because of low pre-season expectations. The same goes for Fisi and Bourdais as well. But what about Kovalainen, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Ferrari, Renault, Toyota - all manufacturer teams even?

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 18 Jun 2009, 00:52

I agree that it's too early. We have way too many candidates right now (for me, everyone that's not Brawn or Red Bull).

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 18 Jun 2009, 08:42

Henrique wrote:I agree that it's too early. We have way too many candidates right now (for me, everyone that's not Brawn or Red Bull).

There's an awful lot of strategy flukes going on on Red Bull right now. Indeed, it's been argued that theirs is actually the fastest car in fast, flowing circuits. Don't rule them out yet...

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 08 Jul 2009, 10:59

KERS - not hands down, but rather keep your hands off - danger - high voltage!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Jul 2009, 11:51

Yannick wrote:KERS - not hands down, but rather keep your hands off - danger - high voltage!

I agree with you, KERS is a waste of time and money, cost-cutting my arse.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Jul 2009, 21:23

KERS, the FIA, FOTA

Arrange at will. Alphabet Soup on all three steps of the Reject Podium.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 12 Jul 2009, 20:57

By now my podium would be

1- F1 politics (but I hope to rule this out soon)
2- KERS
3- 2009 silly rules and awful car shapes
4 (podium contender if -I hope- we won't hear about politics again) - BMW Sauber (ok, this year manufacturers sucks, but BMW is sucking more than anyone else)

nit · Post by **nit** » 13 Jul 2009, 07:41

Jack O Malley wrote:By now my podium would be

3- 2009 silly rules and awful car shapes

I like the shape of the cars, i there miles better then the ugly things that the drivers we're driving from 06 to 08.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 13 Jul 2009, 10:42

Whisper it... Hamilton?

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 15 Jul 2009, 12:00

I think it's safe to say Sebastien Bourdais will be on the ROTY podium at this stage, unless people start to mess up badly.

razta · Post by **razta** » 18 Jul 2009, 16:07

Now that Bordais' out does that mean he does not qualify for Reject of the Year?

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 18 Jul 2009, 21:28

He qualfies, Ide and Montoya have qualfied for ROTY before when they haven't finished the season. If he sues Toro Rosso he'll really deserve it, suing does no good for his career and litigation is completely unnecessary (sorry Enoch!)

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 19 Jul 2009, 04:25

Debaser wrote:He qualfies, Ide and Montoya have qualfied for ROTY before when they haven't finished the season. If he sues Toro Rosso he'll really deserve it, suing does no good for his career and litigation is completely unnecessary (sorry Enoch!)

Don't forget good ol' Pantano.

lostpin · Post by **lostpin** » 03 Aug 2009, 22:59

Pity that Piquet is out now, his ROTY would have been more deserved...

Kuwashima · Post by **Kuwashima** » 03 Aug 2009, 23:43

Pity that Piquet is out now, his ROTY would have been more deserved...

Well, he's still well in the running. His departing statement has ensured that...!

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 04 Aug 2009, 06:06

Has BMW's announcement of pulling out strengthened or weakened their bid for the award?

With KERS winning and manufacturers leaving, what effect will this have on cost-cutting initiatives?
2009 might be the season that it is the hardest so far to pick a winner.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 04 Aug 2009, 06:42

How about Schumacher? If he tanks, he's totally a candidate.

MaxZero · Post by **MaxZero** » 04 Aug 2009, 17:49

I would say KERS as well, it took up a fair degree of development funds and royally sodomized several races

muttley · Post by **muttley** » 04 Aug 2009, 18:35

If Mad Max shows up and gets re-elected in October, FOTA is the ROTY hands down.

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 05 Aug 2009, 14:33

My nominees

1st-BMW - for supporting Formula Elaborate Bluff, for advocating KERS in 2009 and then dropping it halfway, for their pitiful results on track and for finally being a "bad sport" and quitting F-1 (again) after a bad season leaving Sauber on the tightrope

2nd-Nelson Piquet Jr - I would leave him out but due to his complete lack of humility, Piquet Jr deserves the place here, he made a fool of himself alone with no help from Flav

3rd-FIA/FOTA/FOM/Max/Bernie/Luca/Manufacturers - putting it into simple words, we F-1 fans do not need this crap again!

jackanderton · Post by **jackanderton** » 06 Aug 2009, 10:46

Some odd suggestions.

Drivers:
(most rejecty at the top)

1)Bourdais
2)Piquet Jr.
3)Kubica
4)Kovalainen
5)Nakajima

Other stuff:

1)Honda for pulling the plug with what in the context of history will be judged impeccable comic timing
2)BMW for screwing up Robert Kubica's championship bid in order to concentrate on a car that would drive them out of the sport
3)FOTA for being CUN*S
4)FIA for being CUN*S
5)KERS, which hasn't worked.

watka · Post by **watka** » 06 Aug 2009, 21:56

The strongest candidate is probably the FIA-FOTA war, I think people were genuinely worried about a breakaway series, but it turned out to be a pointless, elaborate bluff.

Piquet Jr, Bourdais, and BMW Sauber are also up there. KERS would have been up there if Hamilton hadn't won in Hungary, as I think this shows at least some point to it.

Unlikely candidates, but ones I'll put forward regardless, are Barrichello, and the Overtaking Working Group.

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 09 Aug 2009, 02:06

I'm going to give Jaime Alguersuari the benefit of the doubt and assume he will probably take the title in a close race. Reject, that is.

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 09 Aug 2009, 06:34

Everyone here is missing the blindingly obvious. I know all the previous ROTYs have been the actual drivers, but nobody can really say that someone who's constantly been stupid and bigheaded all year with no redeeming features (Bourdais had that race in Monaco beating Fisi, Piquet had that spar with Hamilton remember) is none other than Flavio Briatore.

He was the guy who led FOTA against the FIA, dragging out the war. He was the one who whined about the Double Deck Diffusers at all times, about KERS, who thinks F1 should be just some sort of light-embellished circuit for raking in money rather than an interesting sport with technological advancements. He's been like this for some time true, but I've pretty much had it with him in my own opinion. Give him the Year's award, and then drop something heavy on him if you can.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 10 Aug 2009, 15:58

Jordan wrote:I'm going to give Jaime Alguersuari the benefit of the doubt and assume he will probably take the title in a close race. Reject, that is.

Schumacher might just beat him to it... :twisted:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Aug 2009, 09:10

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Jordan wrote:I'm going to give Jaime Alguersuari the benefit of the doubt and assume he will probably take the title in a close race. Reject, that is.

Schumacher might just beat him to it...

Bingo. Someone give this man a beer.
Schumacher automatic ROTY if Badoer does will :mrgreen:

(Which we all hope he does)

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 22 Aug 2009, 04:27

rffp wrote:My nominees

1st-BMW - for supporting Formula Elaborate Bluff, for advocating KERS in 2009 and then dropping it halfway, for their pitiful results on track and for finally being a "bad sport" and quitting F-1 (again) after a bad season leaving Sauber on the tightrope

It's hard to say this for a Sauber supporter like me, but BMW are in the lead for the award now for losin the money that would have been that of the team in case they had signed the Concorde Agreement and then trying to sell the team, instead of pulling out before signing and then reapplying their team as a new entrant to get it sold.
The board of directors appears so clueless ...
Here's hoping that Sauber can achieve decent performances next year with the customer engine.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 22 Aug 2009, 18:20

Here's hoping that Sauber can be on the grid next year, I would say.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Aug 2009, 21:18

Ferrim wrote:Here's hoping that Sauber can be on the grid next year, I would say.

Here's agreeing with you, as the original team ran by Peter Sauber. My third favourite F1 team of all time.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2009, 15:48

My Provisional ROTY Podium:
1st) Renault (because it effectively covers Nelson Piquet Jr. being sh*t, Flav's constant whining and Vettel's constant engine failures)
2nd) Donnington Park (for turning out to be a typical British construction project - very late. British GP in the Millenium Stadium Car Park anyone?)
3rd) Toyota (for going from locking out the front row in Bahrain Quali to locking out the back row in Monaco 2 races later, and having pretty much stayed there since.)

Current points scorers:
SEBASTIEN BOURDAIS for being crap.
BMW SAUBER for their generally rubbish season.
MAX MOSELY for once again treating F1 as his plaything and messing around with everybody. Dumbass.
LUCA BADOER for already being a Reject.
MCLAREN for Melbournegate and forgetting to get tyres for Hamilton's 2nd stop at Valencia.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 26 Aug 2009, 13:16

My ROTY nominations so far are, Toro Rosso whilst Red Bull win races Toro in effectivly the same car languish at the back with easily the worst driver line up on the grid. BMW, Pre season favourites, Actual Season disapointment, next season non-existant. My Personal favourite, overestimation, thinking there would be more overtaking, thinking Luca Badoer would be brilliant, thinking BMW would walk it and thinking Hungary would be boring and predictable

oh and if possible to even nominate, peoples attitude to KERS, thinking it is useless but as Mclaren and Ferrari have proved in the last couple of races, BRILLIANT.

Janmarcuus · Post by **Janmarcuus** » 27 Aug 2009, 16:11

I'd say, BMW Sauber; how idiots. They almost fought for the championship last year, and for one wrong season... Withdrawal! Bah. BMW Racing Team: few ideas... BUT confused!!! XD

captainhappy · Post by **captainhappy** » 28 Aug 2009, 01:33

For the podium, I'd like to nominate everyone and/or entity who gave up on KERS after a half sack of races. It is destined to become a dominant technology by the end of this year. Given the same regulations next year, Mclaren would be untouchable. The refuelling ban could make it a serious trump card.