2008 Reverse Points-Scoring

[shinji]

For some reason unbeknownst to myself, I decided to figure out the 2008 season if a different points scoring system was in place, one that rewarded rejectfulness: 10 points for 22nd (or 20th after Supah Agoori left), 8 for 21st, 6 for 20th and so on. Generally it meant that the first driver to retire scored ten points.

I've so far done the first three races (Australia, Malaysia and Bahrain), and I'll do more if any interest is shown.

Points After 2008 Australian GP

1. Rubens - 10
2. Giancarlo - 8
3. Vettel - 6
4. Davidson - 5
5. Button - 4
6. Webber - 3
7. Sutil - 2
8. Trulli - 1
9. DC - 0
= Massa
=Piquet
=Sato
=Glock
=Kubica
=Raikkonen
=Bourdais
=Nakajima
=Kovalainen
=Alonso
=Rosberg
=Heidfeld
=Hamilton

2008 Malaysian GP

Bourdais+10
Glock+8
Sutil+6
Massa+5
Vettel+4
Nakajima+3
Sato+2
Davidson+1

Points after 2008 Malaysian GP

1. Rubens - 10
= Vettel
=Bourdais
4. Sutil - 8
=Giancarlo
=Glock
7- Davidson - 6
8 Massa - 5
9 Button - 4
10Nakajima - 3
=Webber
12.Sato - 2
13. Trulli - 1
14.DC - 0
= Piquet
= Kubica
= Raikkonen
= Kovalainen
= Alonso
= Rosberg
= Heidfeld
= Hamilton

2008 Bahrain GP

Vettel+10
Button+8
Piquet+6
Sutil+5
DC+4
Sato+3
Davidson+2
Bourdais+1

Points after 2008 Bahrain GP

1.Vettel - 20
2.Sutil - 13
3.Button - 12
4.Bourdais - 11
5.Rubens - 10
6. Davidson - 8
= Giancarlo
= Glock
9 Piquet - 6
10Massa - 5
= Sato
12.DC - 4
13.Nakajima - 3
= Webber
15 Trulli - 1
16 Kubica - 0
= Raikkonen
= Kovalainen
= Alonso
= Rosberg
= Heidfeld
= Hamilton

[shinji]

Well, I've done more, despite no interest being shown in the last hour and a half (I don't know what I was expecting really), mainly because doing this is sort of enjoyable and I've nothing better to do. So here's up to the British GP, halfway through the season.

2008 Spanish GP

Vettel+10
Sutil+8
Piquet+6
Bourdais+5
Davidson+4
Kovalainen+3
Rubens+2
Alonso+1

Points After 2008 Spanish GP
1. Vettel - 30
2. Sutil - 21
3. Bourdais - 16
4. Button - 12
= Piquet
= Davidson
= Rubens
8. Giancarlo - 8
= Glock
10. Massa - 5
= Sato
12. DC - 4
13. Nakajima - 3
= Webber
= Kovalainen
16. Trulli - 1
= Alonso
18.Raikkonen - 0
= Rosberg
= Heidfeld
= Hamilton
= Kubica

2008 Turkish GP

Giancarlo+10
Nakajima+8
Bourdais+6
Vettel+5
Sutil+4
Piquet+3
Rubens+2
Glock+1

Points After 2008 Turkish GP

1. Vettel - 35
2. Sutil - 25
3. Bourdais - 22
4. Giancalo - 18
5. Piquet - 15
6. Rubens - 14
7. Button - 12
= Davidson
9. Nakajima - 11
10. Glock - 9
11. Massa - 5
= Sato
13. DC - 4
14. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
16 Trulli - 1
= Alonso
18 Raikkonen
= Heidfeld
= Kubica
= Hamilton
= Rosberg

2008 Monaco GP

Bourdais+10
DC+8
Giancarlo+6
Piquet+5
Rosberg+4
Sutil+3
Heidfeld+2
Trulli+1

Points After 2008 Monaco GP

1. Vettel - 35
2. Bourdais - 32
3. Sutil - 28
4. Giancarlo - 24
5. Piquet - 20
6. Rubens - 14
7. Button - 12
= Davidson
= DC
10. Nakajima - 11
11. Glock - 9
12. Massa - 5
= Sato
14. Rosberg - 4
15. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
17. Trulli - 2
= Heidfeld
19. Alonso - 1
20. Raikkonen - 0
= Kubica
= Hamilton

2008 Canadian GP

Sutil+10
Hamilton+8
Raikkonen+6
Piquet+5
Alonso+4
Nakajima+3
Giancarlo+2
Bourdais+1

Points After 2008 Canadian GP

1. Sutil - 38
2. Vettel - 35
3. Bourdais - 33
4. Giancarlo - 26
5. Piquet - 25
6. Rubens - 14
= Nakajima
8. Button - 12
= Davidson
= DC
11. Glock - 9
12. Hamilton - 8
13. Raikkonen - 6
14. Massa - 5
= Sato
= Alonso
17. Rosberg - 4
18. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
20. Trulli - 2
= Heidfeld
22. Kubica - 0

2008 French GP

Button+10
Sutil+8
Giancarlo+6
Bourdais+5
Rosberg+4
Nakajima+3
Rubens+2
Heidfeld+1

Points After 2008 French GP

1. Sutil - 46
2. Bourdais - 38
3. Vettel - 35
4. Giancarlo - 32
5. Piquet - 25
6. Button - 22
7. Nakajima - 17
8. Rubens -`16
9. Davidson - 12
= DC
11. Glock - 9
12. Hamilton - 8
= Rosberg
14. Raikkonen - 6
15. Massa - 5
= Sato
= Alonso
18. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
21. Trulli - 2
22. Kubica - 0

2008 British GP

DC+10
Vettel+8
Sutil+6
Giancarlo+5
Piquet+4
Button+3
Kubica+2
Massa+1

Points After 2008 British GP

1. Sutil - 52
2. Vettel - 43
3. Bourdais - 38
4. Giancarlo - 37
5. Piquet - 29
6. Button - 25
7. DC - 22
8. Nakajima - 17
9. Rubens - 16
10. Davidson - 12
11. Glock - 9
12. Hamilton - 8
= Rosberg
14. Raikkonen - 6
= Massa
16. Sato - 5
= Alonso
18 Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
21 Trulli - 2
= Kubica

Constructors 1/2 way through the season

1. Force India - 89
2. Toro Rosso - 81
3. Honda - 41
4. Renault - 34
5. Red Bull - 25
= Williams
7. Super Aguri - 17
8. Ferrari - 12
9. McLaren - 11
= Toyota
11. BMW - 5

[WeirdKerr]

intersting......DC will be high up in this i predict.....

[Salamander]

This is actually pretty interesting, especially when BMW appear to be the least reject-worthy team last year, for at least the first half. A far cry from this year.

[TomWazzleshaw]

FInally. Force India are winning something

[shinji]

Here's the rest of the season, presented in demoralisingly unreadable statistics.

2008 German GP

Glock+10
Rubens+8
Button+6
Giancarlo+5
Sutil+4
Nakajima+3
DC+2
Bourdais+1

Points after 2008 German GP

1. Sutil - 56
2. Vettel - 43
3. Giancarlo - 42
4. Bourdais - 39
5. Button - 31
6. Piquet - 29
7. DC - 24
= Rubens
9. Nakajima - 20
10.Glock - 19
11. Davidson - 12
12. Hamilton - 8
= Rosberg
14. Raikkonen - 6
= Massa
16. Sato - 5
= Alonso
18 Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
21 Trulli - 2
= Kubica

2008 Hungarian GP

Vettel+10
Sutil+8
Bourdais+6
Massa+5
Rubens+4
Giancarlo+3
Rosberg+2
Nakajima+1

Points After 2008 Hungarian GP

1. Sutil - 64
2. Vettel - 53
3. Giancarlo - 46
= Bourdais
5. Button - 31
6. Piquet - 29
7. Rubens - 28
8. DC - 24
9. Nakajima - 21
10.Glock - 19
11. Davidson - 12
12. Massa - 11
13. Rosberg - 10
14. Hamilton - 8
15. Raikkonen - 6
16. Sato - 5
= Alonso
18 Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
21 Trulli - 2
= Kubica

2008 European GP

Alonso+10
Sutil+8
Raikkonen+6
DC+5
Rubens+4
Nakajima+3
Giancarlo+2
Button+1

Points After 2008 European GP

1. Sutil - 72
2. Vettel - 53
3. Giancarlo - 47
4. Bourdais - 45
5. Button - 32
= Rubens
7. Piquet - 29
= DC
9 . Nakajima - 24
10. Glock - 19
11. Alonso - 15
12. Raikkonen - 12
= Davidson
14. Massa - 11
15. Rosberg- 10
16. Hamilton
17. Sato - 5
18 Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
21 Trulli - 2
= Kubica

2008 Belgian GP

Piquet+10
Rubens+8
Raikkonen+6
Giancarlo+5
Trulli+4
Button+3
Nakajima+2
Sutil+1

Points After 2008 Belgian GP

1. Sutil - 73
2. Vettel - 53
3. Giancarlo - 52
4. Bourdais - 45
5. Rubens - 40
6. Piquet - 39
7. Button - 35
8. DC - 29
9. Nakajima - 25
10. Glock - 19
11. Raikkonen - 18
12. Alonso - 15
13. Davdison - 12
14. Massa - 11
15. Rosberg - 10
16. Hamilton - 8
17. Trulli - 6
18. Sato - 5
19. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
22. Kubica - 2

2008 Italian GP

Giancarlo+10
Sutil+8
Bourdais+6
Rubens+5
DC+4
Button+3
Rosberg+2
Trulli+1

Points After 2008 Italian GP

1. Sutil - 81
2. Giancarlo - 62
3. Vettel - 53
4. Bourdais - 51
5. Rubens - 45
6. Piquet - 39
7. Button - 38
8. DC - 33
9 . Nakajima - 25
10. Glock - 19
11. Raikkonen - 18
12. Alonso - 15
13. Davidson - 12
= Rosberg
15. Massa - 11
16. Hamilton - 8
17. Trulli - 7
18. Sato - 5
19. Webber - 3
= Kovalainen
= Heidfeld
22. Kubica - 2


2008 Singapore GP

Piquet+10
Webber+8
Sutil+6
Trulli+5
Raikkonen+4
Giancarlo+3
Massa+2
Bourdais+1

Points After 2008 Singapore GP

1. Sutil - 87
2. Giancarlo - 65
3. Vettel - 53
4. Bourdais - 52
5. Piquet - 49
6. Rubens - 45
7. Button - 38
8. DC - 33
9. Nakajima - 25
10. Raikkonen - 22
11. Glock - 19
12. Alonso - 15
13. Massa - 13
14. Davidson - 12
= Rosberg
= Trulli
17. Webber - 11
18. Hamilton - 8
19. Sato - 5
20. Kovalainen - 3
= Heidfeld
22. Kubica - 2

2008 Japanese GP

DC+10
Glock+8
Sutil+6
Kovalainen+5
Giancarlo+4
Nakajima+3
Button+2
Rubens+1

Points After 2008 Japanese GP

1. Sutil - 93___Champion
2. Giancarlo - 69
3. Vettel - 53
4. Bourdais - 52
5. Piquet - 49
6. Rubens - 46
7. DC - 43
8. Button - 40
9. Nakajima - 28
10. Glock - 27
11. Raikkonen - 22
12. Alonso - 15
13. Massa - 13
14. Davidson - 12
= Rosberg
= Trulli
17. Webber - 11
18. Hamilton - 8
= Kovalainen
20. Sato - 5
21. Heidfeld - 3
22. Kubica - 2

2008 Chinese GP

Sutil+10
Kovalainen+8
Giancarlo+6
Button+5
Rosberg+4
Webber+3
Bourdais+2
Nakajima+1

Points After 2008 Chinese GP

1. Sutil - 103___Champion
2. Giancarlo - 75
3. Bourdais - 54
4. Vettel - 53
5. Piquet - 49
6. Rubens - 46
7. Button - 45
8. DC - 43
9. Nakajima - 29
10. Glock - 27
11. Raikkonen - 22
12. Kovalainen - 16
= Rosberg
14. Alonso -15
15. Webber - 14
16. Massa - 13
17. Davidson - 12
= Trulli
19. Hamilton - 8
20. Sato - 5
21. Heidfeld - 3
22. Kubica- 2

2008 Brazilian GP

DC+10
Piquet+8
Giancarlo+6
Nakajima+5
Sutil+4
Rubens+3
Bourdais+2
Button+1

Points After 2008 Brazilian GP

1. Sutil - 107___Champion
2. Giancarlo - 81
3. Piquet - 57
4. Bourdais - 56
5. Vettel - 53
= DC
7. Rubens - 49
8. Button - 46
9. Nakajima - 34
10. Glock - 27
11. Raikkonen - 22
12. Kovalainen - 16
= Rosberg
14. Alonso -15
15. Webber - 14
16. Massa - 13
17. Davidson - 12
= Trulli
19. Hamilton - 8
20. Sato - 5
21. Heidfeld - 3
22. Kubica- 2

End of Season Driver's Standings

1. Adrian Sutil (Force India) - 107 points
2. Giancarlo Fisichella (Force India) - 81 points
3. Nelsinho Piquet (Renault) - 57 points
4. Sebastian Bourdais (Toro Rosso) - 56 points
5. Sebastian Vettel (Toro Rosso) - 53 points
6. David Coulthard (Red Bull) - 53 points
7. Rubens Barrichello (Honda) - 49 points
8. Jenson Button (Honda) - 46 points
9. Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) - 34 points
10. Timo Glock (Toyota) - 27 points
11. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) - 22 points
12. Heikki Kovalainen (McLaren) - 16 points
13. Nico Rosberg (Williams) - 16 points
14. Fernando Alonso (Renault) - 15 points
15. Mark Webber (Red Bull) - 14 points
16. Felipe Massa (Ferrari) - 13 points
17. Anthony Davidson (Super Aguri) - 12
18. Jarno Trulli (Toyota) - 12
19. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) - 8
20. Takuma Sato (Super Aguri) - 5
21. Nick Heidfeld (BMW) - 3
22. Robert Kubica (BMW) - 2

End of Season Constructor's Standings

1. Force India - 188 points
2. Toro Rosso - 115 points
3. Honda - 95 points
4. Renault - 72 points
5. Red Bull - 67 points
6. Williams - 50 points
7. Toyota - 39 points
8. Ferrari - 35 points
9. McLaren - 24 points
10. Super Aguri - 17 points
11. BMW - 5 points

You can make up your own mind about the relevance or irrelevance of this. I might do other seasons, as I still have more than a month of holidays and not much to do.

[FullMetalJack]

Thats fairly interesting, it just goes to show that Heidfeld didn't have a bad season.

[thehemogoblin]

Thats fairly interesting, it just goes to show that Heidfeld didn't have a bad season.

Lies. He just finished every race.

[Waris]

The funny thing is that it's not the exact reverse of the real final standings.

[Bleu]

I was thinking counting these reverse points with different fashion - you have to finish race to get points. So for example in British GP 2008 Felipe Massa (remember, after all those spins he still managed to finish) was the winner and Lewis Hamilton was 13th.

[shinji]

I was thinking counting these reverse points with different fashion - you have to finish race to get points.

Like this?

2009 Hungarian GP

Buemi+10
Alguersari+8
Fisi+6
Kubica+5
Piquet+4
Heidfeld+3
Barrichello+2
Nakajima+1

The thing with that though is that surely if you're eliminating retirements, then rejectful behaviour often gets away unscathed. Hamilton wouldn't have got any points at Canada last year, for example, despite making an extremely amateurish error.

[Salamander]

I was thinking counting these reverse points with different fashion - you have to finish race to get points.

Like this?

2009 Hungarian GP

Buemi+10
Alguersari+8
Fisi+6
Kubica+5
Piquet+4
Heidfeld+3
Barrichello+2
Nakajima+1

The thing with that though is that surely if you're eliminating retirements, then rejectful behaviour often gets away unscathed. Hamilton wouldn't have got any points at Canada last year, for example, despite making an extremely amateurish error.

Perhaps we should eliminate only mechanical retirements instead of all retirements? Of course, in order to cover those who have a reject-worthy drive and then drop out of the running, ROTR's could be an automatic qualification for some points.

[Ferrim]

It was to be expected that Force India would win this by a countrymile, as they were very poor and had lots of retirements last year.

But what I find interesting about this is how high the Toro Rossos are in the rejectdom stakes, given that they finished 6th among the constructors

I'm gonna make this for 2009 so far.

[Ferrim]

Here they are. Half points were awarded for the Malaysian GP:


Drivers Championship

Adrian Sutil 43,5
Sébastien Buemi 38
Sébastien Bourdais 33
Kazuki Nakajima 31
Giancarlo Fisichella 31
Robert Kubica 28,5
Nelson Piquet 25,5
Lewis Hamilton 25
Heikki Kovalainen 25
Felipe Massa 20
Jarno Trulli 17
Sebastian Vettel 13
Nick Heidfeld 9
Kimi Räikkönen 9
Rubens Barrichello 8
Fernando Alonso 8
Nico Rosberg 3
Jaime Alguersuari 3

Not classified: Timo Glock, Jenson Button and Mark Webber.


Constructors Championship

Force India 74,5
Toro Rosso 74
McLaren 50
BMW 37,5
Williams 34
Renault 33,5
Ferrari 29
Toyota 17
Red Bull 13
Brawn 8


Interesting facts:

-Glock, Button and Webber are yet to score.
-Not even when given a shitty car can Heidfeld be brilliant. He's there, but you always forget it, no matter if his car is good or bad.
-The opposite applies to Nakajima: he will be always chasing the heaven of rejectdom, even when given a good car.
-McLaren's season has been clearly rejectful, yet they've won a race.
-Adrian Sutil is well on his way to retain his crown. And he probably won it in 2007, too, as he had the worst car and Albers didn't finish the season...