2020 Silly Season Thread
2020 Silly Season Thread
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Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
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Rob Dylan wrote:The silliest thing about this article is that it presumes patience from Red Bull that will last a whole season for "the under-performing Gasly". Too silly for me!
I would quite like some mid-season driver transfers; it's been far too long since an underperforming driver has had the axe fall on him to be mourned on this forum.
A collection of all of the silliness I've seen suggested around the place would seem to be as follows:
- Alfa Sauber - Mick Schumacher in for Giovinazzi
- Ferrari - Vettel retires, replaced by Ricciardo
- Haas - Grosjean booted out for an Indycar driver - Fittipaldi or O'Ward.
- McLaren - Launches a full-time Indycar team, despite not having engines for their F1 team as mentioned below
- Mercedes - Wins all of the races, the WDC, the WCC, the Pole Trophy and the Fastest Lap Award.
- Racing Point - May actually employ a reserve driver one day.
- Red Bull - Gasly is dropped, replaced by Hulkenberg
- Renault - Abandons the sport entirely
- Toro Rosso - Kvyat to be fired for the 2020 season, being replaced by Daniil Kvyat.
- Williams - Artem Markelov comes in with the support of his dad's laundered money and buys half the team
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Rob Dylan wrote:The silliest thing about this article is that it presumes patience from Red Bull that will last a whole season for "the under-performing Gasly". Too silly for me!
The one thing that might constrain Red Bull is the fact that they'd need to be able to promote somebody as quickly as they could sack Gasly, unless they were to switch Gasly with one of the Toro Rosso drivers.
As things stand, they don't have a driver on the books who is eligible for a superlicence right now, and right now Ticktum's results in the Superformula series aren't going to earn him a licence in the near future. The only way they could promote from within would be switching a driver from Toro Rosso to Red Bull, but that would either mean the politically awkward case of hiring Kvyat, or promoting Albon - who has done better than expected, but it would be a big step up at such an early stage of his career.
The idea of Hulkenberg going to Red Bull might be something of a poisoned chalice though - he'd be going to a top team, but doing so against a team mate that is the pride and joy of the team and at a time when Mercedes seem to have opened up a gap to everybody else again.
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mario wrote:Rob Dylan wrote:The silliest thing about this article is that it presumes patience from Red Bull that will last a whole season for "the under-performing Gasly". Too silly for me!
The one thing that might constrain Red Bull is the fact that they'd need to be able to promote somebody as quickly as they could sack Gasly, unless they were to switch Gasly with one of the Toro Rosso drivers.
As things stand, they don't have a driver on the books who is eligible for a superlicence right now, and right now Ticktum's results in the Superformula series aren't going to earn him a licence in the near future. The only way they could promote from within would be switching a driver from Toro Rosso to Red Bull, but that would either mean the politically awkward case of hiring Kvyat, or promoting Albon - who has done better than expected, but it would be a big step up at such an early stage of his career.
The idea of Hulkenberg going to Red Bull might be something of a poisoned chalice though - he'd be going to a top team, but doing so against a team mate that is the pride and joy of the team and at a time when Mercedes seem to have opened up a gap to everybody else again.
So far Hulkenberg has proven himself as a development driver, a dependable set of hands. He has lead in the past (Sauber 2013) but without having been a number 1 driver since then could he still be a leader on the team he's in? With Red Bull it would be a tough sell to wrestle favorable conditions and influence from Verstappen.
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CaptainGetz12 wrote:So far Hulkenberg has proven himself as a development driver, a dependable set of hands. He has lead in the past (Sauber 2013) but without having been a number 1 driver since then could he still be a leader on the team he's in? With Red Bull it would be a tough sell to wrestle favorable conditions and influence from Verstappen.
But he'd probably get that podium at long last? Maybe even a life-affirming race win
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Seeing more and more stuff about Hulkenberg replacing Gasly. A lot of stuff looks photoshopped, so I'm not putting faith in it. Even if Red Bull were to replace him, it absolutely wouldn't be this sudden before a race weekend. I give it a few more races for Gasly to perform - I'll bet he's been given a very serious hurry-up by Marko and the team.
Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
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Aislabie wrote:[*]Haas - Grosjean booted out for an Indycar driver - Fittipaldi or O'Ward.
No no no, Louis Delétraz for Grosjean! He's already a development and simulation driver with Haas and we could have a reject family!
Aislabie wrote:[*]Williams - Artem Markelov comes in with the support of his dad's laundered money and buys half the team[/list]
Williams abandons the pretense that it is anything other than the slowest team on the grid and goes full pay-driver, with Artem Markelov and Nicholas Latifi.
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Rob Dylan wrote:https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1136677322596200449
Seeing more and more stuff about Hulkenberg replacing Gasly. A lot of stuff looks photoshopped, so I'm not putting faith in it. Even if Red Bull were to replace him, it absolutely wouldn't be this sudden before a race weekend. I give it a few more races for Gasly to perform - I'll bet he's been given a very serious hurry-up by Marko and the team.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is an element of pressuring Gasly to up his game - the team might not be under pressure in the WCC, but I can't imagine they'll appreciate Gasly currently being closer to the midfield pack than he is to Leclerc (36 points off Leclerc and only 18 ahead of Sainz Jr).
James1978 wrote:Could Vettel possibly be walking away after what happened to him today?
Well, that has been a question floating around Vettel this season - he has denied that he intended to quit, stating that he was keen to continue in F1 for the future, and I don't think that this will be enough to make him want to quit immediately, but perhaps might somewhat sour his relationship with the sport and make him think of bringing his retirement forwards.
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Pacific 777 wrote:Ok, this is as "silly" as silly season could get, but IF Gasly goes mid season, but what about Ocon replacing him? It seems a win-win, for all, Mercedes could consider putting Ocon out on loan for a while, because if Bottas carries on like he did yesterday, then it allows Ocon to get back up to speed while Mercedes make their decision. Also, it would be a CLEAR message to Bottas that this is what is going on, and could re-ignite his 2019 fire. And RBR get a driver who for a while could enable them to get themselves a chance got get better constructor's points. Of course, the glaring problem is that Ocon could take whatever Merc secrets he knows to RBR.
Given how Christian Horner categorically excluded any Mercedes drivers from his target pool for the second driver, I don't see that happening. Williams and Racing Point would take him on (in the case of Williams only if Mercedes covered some of the salary because they can't afford much more than a shilling and thruppence these days).
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Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton
Esteban Ocon
Unless Bottas can maintain a serious challenge for the title I see no reason not to take that punt on Ocon next season.
Ferrari
Sebastian Vettel
Charles Leclerc
No changes here.
Red Bull-Honda
Max Verstappen
Nico Hulkenburg
Gasly will last the full 2019 season, I think it would be harsh to drop him part way through his first season. I really hope this Hulkenburg to Red Bull rumour happens though, if only to finally stop him from being the Chris Amon of podiums.
Renault
Daniel Ricciardo
Valtteri Bottas
With Hulkenburg to Red Bull, Bottas would be a nice fit giving Renault two drivers with recent front running car experience. Another possibility would be picking up Gasly if only to have a French driver.
McLaren-Renault
Carlos Sainz Jr.
Lando Norris
Both drivers are thriving to the point I think both will stick around for several seasons. No changes.
Haas-Ferrari
Kevin Magnussen
Sergio Perez
I cannot see the Magnussen/Grosjean pairing lasting another season, its honestly one of the weaker pairings at the moment. Grosjean is most likely to be the man out and its time Perez jumped into another team. I could see Magnussen out too with maybe Kvyat or Gasly in his place.
Toro Rosso-Honda
Daniil Kvyat
Alexander Albon
Gasly could be moved back down but it would be a shame to lose either of Kvyat or Albon who have both been solid so far. Can't see Dan Ticktum getting a shot till 2021 or enough super-license points, (honestly what does Red Bull have against F2/GP2? Why Super Formula?)
Fake Alfa Sauber
Kimi Raikkonen
Antonio Giovinazzi
As underwhelming as Gio has been so far, unless Mick Schumacher suddenly becomes a contender for the F2 title I think his place is safe for another season. Kimi will likely hold on for at least one more season too. No changes.
Racing (What's the) Point-Mercedes
Lance Stroll
George Russell
Lets face it, Stroll isn't going anywhere and if Perez moves on, Mercedes should place Russell here so that he can at least get to race against other teams next season.
Williams-Mercedes
Nicolas Latifi
Sergei Sirotkin
Russell moves to Racing Point while I cannot see the Kubica experiment lasting past this season. I'll be shocked if Latifi isn't in Kubica's seat next season considering he's already the reserve driver and comes with much needed $, particularly if he wins F2. As for the other seat, Sirotkin ought to get another shot if he has funding (he should have had Kubica's seat this season frankly) or it'll be whatever pay-driver Williams can find that has enough super-license points. Or Russell will have to endure another pointless season at the team.
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Only thing that probably won't happen is Sirotkin back to Williams, given what his backers had to say about Williams last time around, I doubt either party would be interested in a second stint.
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