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Well, everyone its 2025 and I hope you're all enjoying the vacation from F1.
I think its the perfect time, with the 2025 F1 Season still looming on the horizon with all its promise, to prove how smart we all are ;)

That's right, its the time to predict what will happen this year in the world of F1 (and beyond if you want).
Regale me with your prophetic visions of the future, and transcendent insight into the unknowable world of 2025.

Who will win? Who will lose? Will Ricardo Rosset lead us all to the promised land? Clearly you have all the answers so feel free to write them all down so you can bathe in the smug superiority of your brilliance this time next year. 8-)

But what can I predict, I hear you ask...probably...?

Well good news everyone, because I have some predictions right here, just for some examples to get y'all started:

Ducktanian's Predictions

So starting with constructors:

1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. Red Bull
4. Mercedes
5. Alpine
6. Haas
7. Aston Martin
8. Racing Bulls
9. Williams
10. Kick Sauber


I predict the general pace groupings to be 1 to 4; then 5 to 8, then 9 & 10 at the bottom.

Regarding the drivers:

1. Leclerc -
2. Norris
3. Piastri
4. Hamilton
5. Verstappen
6. Russell
7. Antonelli
8. Gasly
9. Lawson
10. Ocon
11. Alonso
12. Tsunoda
13. Bearman
14. Colapinto
15. Stroll
16. Hadjar
17. Sainz
18. Hulkenberg
19. Borteleto
20. Albon
21. Doohan

Mid-Season Drive Changes:
Doohan for Colapinto at Alpine.

Reject of the Year: Williams
Driver of the Year: Leclerc
Unrejectications:: Antonelli; Lawson [In that order]

er...
Formula 2 Champion: Oliver Goethe
IndyCar Champion: ERICSSON ERA BABYYYYYYYY :dance:

Well, you think my predictions are stupid and idiotic? Well prove me wrong and write them all down below! Even better if you explain your predictions and aren't lazy like me.
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Let's have rng predict the results:

1 Ferrari
2 Red Bull
3 Mclaren
4 Williams
5 Aston Martin
6 Haas
7 Mercedes
8 Alpine
9 Sauber
10 VCARB

Williams will go back to the top and it's all drama at Mercedes.

Now drivers
1 Antonio Giovinazzi (now that's a surprise)
2 Lance Stroll
3 Robert Kubica
4 Nikita Maze... goddamit, i'm gonna change the rng system :facepalm:

So the real results
1 Carlos Sainz Jr.
2 Pierre Gasly
3 Oliver Bearman
4 Lewis Hamilton
5 Jack Doohan
6 Nico Hulkenberg
7 Oscar Piastri
8 Isack Hadjar
9 Yuki Tsunoda
10 Fernando Alonso
11 Andrea Kimi Antonelli
12 Liam Lawson
13 Alexander Albon
14 Esteban Ocon
15 Charles Leclerc
16 Max Verstappen
17 George Russell
18 Lance Stroll
19 Lando Norris
20 Gabriel Bortoleto


Generally rng doesn't like big names (true reject spirit there), but looking at it, it would suggest some drivers swapping teams.

Let's see how many of them rng predicted right.
Now drivers
1 Antonio Giovinazzi (now that's a surprise)
2 Lance Stroll
3 Robert Kubica
4 Nikita Maze... goddamit, i'm gonna change the rng system :facepalm:
Let's go back to this one and finish this, out of curiosity:

1 Antonio Giovinazzi
2 Lance Stroll
3 Robert Kubica
4 Nikita Mazepin
5 Pierre Gasly
6 Oliver Bearman
7 Nico Hulkenberg
8 Max Verstappen
9 Yuki Tsunoda
10 Valtteri Bottas
11 Lewis Hamilton
12 Zhou Guanyu
13 Jean-Eric Vergne
14 Kamui Kobayashi
15 Isack Hadjar
16 Logan Sargeant
17 Charles Leclerc
18 Adrian Sutil
19 Sergiy Sirotkin
20 Nyck De Vries

Well, this was a fever dream, with most of the regulars just quitting before the season starts.
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WCC
1. McLaren - Consistency is key and McLaren has the most of it overall, in both their drivers and their car performance as I foresee.
2. Ferrari - They can be faster than McLaren on merit, but how often will the car and Hamilton be fighting at full potential? This year sadly is not their year I'm afraid.
3. Red Bull - Verstappen will still win races and Lawson will be better than Perez, but how much can they rely on their car now that Newey is gone? Title contention for either championship is off the table I feel.
4. Mercedes - A transitional year. No multiple race wins this time, and they will be fighting to win F1.25 over Aston. But Russell and Antonelli's combined efforts will be better than Alonso and Stroll's.
5. Aston Martin - Newey is now here and a repeat of 2023 beckons. The car can be even faster, but can the trundling Stroll and aging Alonso do better tham this?
6. Haas - The Komatsu era is truly under way, with breathing room for Ocon in the calmer Haas environment and a burst of fresh speed with Bearman. Especially with the right car, I have faith in this duo.
7. Alpine - Better form over the whole year than 2024, but not good enough. I'm getting the feeling that Flavio's driver management will shoot him in the foot in some form.
8. Williams - Valiant effort from our appendixless all-stars, but the sheer state of Williams in 2024 doesn't fill me with much hope.
9. Faenza - They'll nibble away at the end of the points positions, but demotivation from Tsunoda being snubbed the seat next to Max will get to him and they'll be outdeveloped.
10. Sauber - A better drive to 10th than before, and their drivers can spring a surprise. But they'll still be slowest overall.

WDC.
1. Norris - The age of Verstappen has ended! No more Dutch anthems! I will lead us into the future! I... am... LANDOTRON!
2. Leclerc - Once again, close, but no Marlboro.
3. Piastri - The Soundwave to Landotron, brilliant backup who will earn wins of his own.
4. Verstappen - WDC not verstappening, but he'll still show us why he's a legend.
5. Hamilton - Will be too inconsistent to mount a title fight, but when he's having a great weekend, he will be astonishing.
6. Russell - A sizable points gap to his former teammate, but still a great year for what it's worth.
7. Alonso - Can put on amazing performances for the dark green guys, but his age will show.
8. Lawson - Crystal clear number two driver, but will be fast enough to shut down the skeptics.
9. Ocon - I'm feeling great about Haas this year, and being welcomed in as team leader in his new home, midfield heroics are on the cards for Ocon.
10. Antonelli - The young man will get up to quite the amount of speed as the year progresses.
11. Gasly - A star of the midfield show.
12. Stroll - High for Stroll standards, 2023 again, minus the injury.
13. Sainz - Will drag the Williams to high places and get a rogue podium, but will be clearly be held back by the car and infrastructure.
14. Bearman - Great full-time year to aid the Haas fight for 6th.
15. Albon - Business as mostly usual, now with a superior teammate.
16. Tsunoda - Gonna be one to forget, like 2022.
17. Hulkenberg - Going to catapult Sauber into battle with Faenza for the last few points.
18. Colapinto - Certified Flavio Approved replacement, won't be the most successful of calls though.
19. Hadjar - Bit of a stinker season for Faenza, not that it's the drivers' fault.
20. Bortoleto - Sadly someone had to get the dreaded P20, but the low pressure of Sauber should be a more comfortable starting point.
21. Doohan - And it's go go go for him, out of F1!
22. Paul Aron - Eithed good ol' appendix trouble or Flavionanigans will enable him to make a cameo.
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Let's also ask AI for a prediction shall we:
Predicted 2025 Driver Standings

(Top 22 drivers, ranked from 1st to 22nd)

Max Verstappen (Red Bull Racing)
Verstappen has been dominant in recent seasons, and Red Bull is unlikely to lose its technical advantage in the near future. His racecraft, consistency, and a car designed for success will likely keep him at the top.

Charles Leclerc (Ferrari)
Leclerc’s raw talent is undeniable. Ferrari’s improvements, especially with their car and strategy, could make him a strong challenger to Verstappen, particularly if Ferrari becomes more consistent by 2025.

Lando Norris (McLaren)
Norris has proven he can compete with the best, and McLaren's trajectory suggests they could challenge for more podiums in 2025. A more competitive car could give him the chance to battle for wins and podiums.

George Russell (Mercedes)
Russell is an up-and-coming star, and with Mercedes likely closing the gap to the top teams, Russell could challenge for the title. Expect him to be competitive throughout the season.

Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
Hamilton may be towards the end of his career, but his skill, racecraft, and experience are unparalleled. Mercedes could be back in contention in 2025, giving him a shot at more wins and podiums.

Sergio Pérez (Red Bull Racing)
Pérez will continue to support Verstappen at Red Bull, but he has the talent to secure podium finishes. However, unless Verstappen faces a challenge, Pérez’s role will remain that of a number two driver.

Fernando Alonso (Aston Martin)
Alonso will be pushing Aston Martin forward, and while he is nearing the end of his career, his talent and experience are key. He could still secure podiums with a strong Aston Martin car in 2025.

Carlos Sainz (Ferrari)
Sainz has proven himself as a solid driver, and with Ferrari’s improvements, he could be in the mix for podiums. Leclerc is likely to be faster, but Sainz will remain competitive.

Esteban Ocon (Alpine)
Ocon has shown strong pace in recent seasons, and Alpine could improve in 2025. Expect him to regularly challenge for points finishes, and potentially the odd podium if Alpine makes a breakthrough.

Pierre Gasly (Alpine)

Gasly is a very capable driver, and with Alpine potentially improving their car, he could be in a position to challenge for top-10 finishes regularly. His consistency could be key in 2025.

Valtteri Bottas (Alfa Romeo/ Sauber)

Bottas is a consistent and experienced driver. While Alfa Romeo may not have the pace to compete for podiums, Bottas will likely be a regular in the points and could surprise with strong results.

Oscar Piastri (McLaren)

Piastri, as a rookie in 2023, has immense potential. By 2025, he could be fully established in F1 and fighting for points regularly with McLaren, especially if they continue improving.

Alex Albon (Williams)

Albon is a great driver with a knack for maximizing his car’s potential. If Williams continues to improve, Albon could secure some valuable points for the team and even challenge for the occasional top 10.

Lance Stroll (Aston Martin)

Stroll has shown flashes of talent, and with the continued development of Aston Martin, he could challenge for points finishes. However, Alonso will still be the leader of the team, which may limit Stroll's results.

Yuki Tsunoda (AlphaTauri)

Tsunoda has shown great improvement, but AlphaTauri's car is not likely to be a top contender. He will need to perform at his best to secure points finishes in a challenging midfield.

Nico Hülkenberg (Haas)

Hülkenberg is a seasoned driver and can extract everything from his car. Haas will likely continue to be a midfield team, but Hülkenberg could still be competitive enough for occasional points finishes.

Kevin Magnussen (Haas)

Magnussen is a capable driver and will likely be fighting for points in the lower midfield. Haas will continue to struggle in 2025, but his experience could still earn him a few strong results.

Logan Sargeant (Williams)

Sargeant has potential, but Williams’ car is unlikely to be competitive enough to regularly challenge for points. However, his development in F1 could allow him to push for the occasional top-15 finish.

Zhou Guanyu (Alfa Romeo/ Sauber)

Zhou will likely be battling in the lower midfield with Bottas. While he's shown some promise, Alfa Romeo’s car may not be competitive enough to allow him to fight regularly for points.

Nyck de Vries (AlphaTauri)

De Vries is an experienced driver, but AlphaTauri may not be able to provide him with the car to challenge regularly for points. However, he could surprise with some solid performances if the team improves.

Daniel Ricciardo (AlphaTauri) (Note: Ricciardo might replace de Vries or Tsunoda by 2025)

Ricciardo is a seasoned driver with a great personality, but if he's in a midfield team like AlphaTauri, he might not consistently challenge for points, though he's always a threat for a standout performance.

Mick Schumacher (Haas or elsewhere)

Schumacher may have another chance to return to F1 by 2025. However, unless he's placed in a more competitive car, it’s likely that he'll continue to fight in the lower midfield.

Predicted 2025 Constructor Standings

(Top 10 Constructors, ranked from 1st to 10th)

Red Bull Racing
With Verstappen, Pérez, and a dominant car, Red Bull is almost certainly going to be the team to beat in 2025. Their technical advantage and consistent performance across both drivers make them the clear favorites.

Ferrari
Ferrari has a talented driver lineup in Leclerc and Sainz, and their car has been improving steadily. If they can match Red Bull’s consistency and reliability, they could finish as the second-best team in 2025.

Mercedes
Mercedes will continue to challenge for podiums with Hamilton and Russell. Their development curve, especially if their car becomes more competitive, will see them back in contention for the championship, though they may not surpass Red Bull or Ferrari just yet.

McLaren
McLaren is on an upward trajectory, and with Norris and Piastri, they have a very promising driver pairing. If their car continues to improve, they could challenge Ferrari and Mercedes for the second or third spot in the constructors’ standings.

Aston Martin
Aston Martin’s rapid development under Alonso’s leadership could bring them close to the top teams, especially with the strong technical direction they are headed in. A regular position in the midfield is likely, but podiums will depend on further improvements.

Alpine
Alpine could be fighting in the midfield in 2025, with Ocon and Gasly working hard to push the team forward. A few podiums could be within reach, but they’ll likely be competing for the lower end of the top 10 in the constructor standings.

Alfa Romeo (Sauber)
Alfa Romeo may continue to struggle in 2025, though Bottas and Zhou’s experience could bring them points finishes. A position towards the lower half of the standings seems most likely unless there are major breakthroughs.

Williams
Williams is slowly improving, and with Albon leading the team, they could continue to rise in the midfield. However, their car may not be competitive enough to challenge for the top 6, but regular points finishes are possible.

AlphaTauri
AlphaTauri is unlikely to be a top contender in 2025. They will be fighting for occasional points finishes, especially if Tsunoda or de Vries extracts everything from the car. A lower-midfield position is probable.

Haas

Haas will remain one of the lower-performing teams unless their car sees a dramatic improvement. Magnussen and Hülkenberg are experienced enough to extract performance, but they will likely be battling for positions outside the points.
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Wow, nothing out-of-date in the AI response!

All I'll say is I think Hamilton and Leclerc will be fairly close in points. I don't think it will be a huge Leclerc walkover.
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I'll start with some thoughts on the WCC, as this post is already long enough without discussing the driver performances as well:

1. McLaren - Whilst McLaren didn't always make the most of their car or their drivers in 2024, I expect them to improve if they are more confident that they can fight for titles. I still expect that there will be some errors by both the team and by their drivers, but it's probably between them and Ferrari for the strongest driver line up of the top four teams, and whilst the team hasn't always been flawless in terms of strategy, we know that Ferrari has also been criticised on that front.

2. Ferrari - Although they did fade at times in 2024, they did finish the season on a relatively strong note and are rumoured to be going into 2025 with some fairly aggressive development plans. The team does seem to have a sense of stability under Vasseur they've lacked for a while, but the strategy department doesn't always have consistent performance. There are also rumours that Ferrari are going for a more aggressive development strategy with their 2025 car, which could go either way.

There is also the question of how Hamilton will fare in 2025 - whilst he did seem a bit out of sorts at times in 2024, races such as Las Vegas did also show that he can still pull out competitive performances if he's confident in his car. He does face the challenge of fitting in to a team with a different culture to what he's been used to and with an entirely new engineering team, but it does still leave Ferrari with one of the stronger line ups in the top four teams. My gut feeling is that Ferrari and McLaren may be close together, but McLaren might be able to make slightly more of the situation than Ferrari will and will edge them as a result.

3. Red Bull - Both Horner and Marko have been fairly open that part of the reason for picking Lawson is that he isn't going to challenge Verstappen, and that they think he'll cope with being beaten by him better than either Tsunoda or Perez. They're not really setting high expectations for Lawson beyond being a bit more competent than Perez, and it's clear that their priorities are keeping Verstappen happy and helping him to win the WDC, not in challenging for the WCC.

4. Mercedes - Antonelli has a steep learning curve ahead of him, and given Mercedes never seemed to be entirely confident about the performance of the W15, it leaves a few questions over whether they can fully rectify the issues that car had with their 2025 contender. There is also the question of how much effort Mercedes will put into their 2025 car, and whether they might focus more effort on their 2026 car instead.

I suspect that Mercedes might still be able to take a win or two in 2025, but I am also expecting a continuation of their records in previous years, where they've not been consistently competitive throughout the season.

5. Aston Martin - Although Newey is joining the team, he has confirmed that he won't be starting until the 1st March and, since the chassis regulations for 2026 came out at the start of January this year, he's going to be spending most of his time getting up to speed with those regulations and directing the design efforts for 2026.

Realistically, Newey is unlikely to have a lot of influence over the development of Aston's car in 2025, as the design direction will have been set long before he joins the team and most of the early to mid-season upgrade packages will already be in development before he gets there. He may provide some input on components towards the end of the season if they can potentially be carried over to their 2026 car, but I expect that 2025 will be more of a holding year whilst the team gears up for 2026.

The driver line up will also raise some questions, with Lance being heavily derided and the question of whether Alonso can still maintain his performances, or if age is finally going to start catching up with him as he reaches his 44th birthday. That said, some of the facilities that the team have been investing in over the past couple of years are now starting to come online, so that may help keep them towards the upper end of the midfield pack.

6. Haas - Komatsu has been winning plaudits for his work at Haas, and the team did seem to make some notable steps in the latter part of the season. The technical partnership with Toyota may also start to pay some dividends over the course of 2025, and Bearman does seem to have performed well in his temporary appearances this year. Ocon has faced criticism in some quarters over his attitude, but he can also be decently quick, so the team may be able to make reasonable use of their somewhat limited resources.

7. Alpine - Like Forti, I expect Alpine may be a bit more organised and consistent than in 2024, but I'm not expecting any major improvements in competitiveness when Renault has been largely downscaling their investment into Formula 1. I also wouldn't be surprised if Renault only undertake minimal development work on their engines for 2025, given they are abandoning their 2026 engine programme, which might not help their competitiveness.

8. Williams - Sainz is probably one of the strongest assets that Williams have for 2025, and hopefully some of the modernisation work that Vowles has forced the team to go through this year will start paying off in 2025. However, whilst I think the team can make some positive steps forwards in 2025, I don't think that will be enough to outpace the likes of Haas or Alpine.

9. Racing Bulls - Hadjar has been a bit unpredictable at times in the junior series, and given that Tsunoda can be a bit tempestuous as well, I can see those two having a few heated moments in 2025. I can see the team taking occasional points here and there, but I can see the team slipping back a bit if their parent team is also a bit less competitiveness - furthermore, it may be a bit of a mixed blessing if their 2025 car re-uses components from Red Bull's 2024 spec car, given the RB20 did have it's flaws.

10. Sauber - There have been rumours swirling around that not all is well at the team. When Seidl was axed, there was talk that he'd been complaining that Audi wasn't investing enough into the team, and Oliver Hoffmann, who had been pushing for Audi to join F1, has also been pushed out of Audi and from Sauber. That does seem to tie in with the reports from Motorsport Magazine in the past that Audi had been withholding some of the funds intended to recruit new staff and expand their production facilities ahead of the 2026 season, amid talk that the board of Audi was less keen on the deal (especially given Audi's poor financial results in 2024).

The decision to sell off part of the team to the Qatari sovereign wealth fund will help ease some of the burden and might start unlocking some investment into the team, but I wouldn't be surprised that, even if the team does occasionally perform a bit better than in 2024, they're unlikely to achieve much. The driver line up is at least one positive, given Hulkenberg is rated for his experience and ability and Bortoleto has won plaudits for his performance in junior series, but I think the wider malaise within the team will hinder the drivers.
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I think Mclaren will take the constructors fairly easily, but I think Max will just edge out the WDC solely for the fact that he will be the undisputed number 1, whereas Oscar and Lando will do the awkward "papaya rules" dance for half a season. Ferrari will slip to third as they redo 1996 and give Lewis any old heap to drive as they figure out what he likes, and at Merc, Kimi will be beating George handily by the summer break. At the back, Sauber will improve slightly and Alpine will regress, while Williams will give up on 2025 very early on to focus on the new rules, and thus we will hear a lot of complaining from Sainz's family members.


WCC Standings:

1.) Mclaren
2.) Red Bull
3.) Ferrari
4.) Mercedes
5.) Aston Martin
6.) VCARB
7.) Haas
8.) Alpine
9.) Sauber
10.) Williams
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Wallio wrote: 09 Jan 2025, 16:04 I think Mclaren will take the constructors fairly easily, but I think Max will just edge out the WDC solely for the fact that he will be the undisputed number 1, whereas Oscar and Lando will do the awkward "papaya rules" dance for half a season. Ferrari will slip to third as they redo 1996 and give Lewis any old heap to drive as they figure out what he likes, and at Merc, Kimi will be beating George handily by the summer break. At the back, Sauber will improve slightly and Alpine will regress, while Williams will give up on 2025 very early on to focus on the new rules, and thus we will hear a lot of complaining from Sainz's family members.


WCC Standings:

1.) Mclaren
2.) Red Bull
3.) Ferrari
4.) Mercedes
5.) Aston Martin
6.) VCARB
7.) Haas
8.) Alpine
9.) Sauber
10.) Williams
I agree that the way that McLaren handle their drivers may hurt them, whereas Verstappen will have the luxury of being the undisputed lead at Red Bull. That said, whilst it did work for Verstappen in 2024, it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out in 2025 if the teams are, as was the case in the latter part of 2024, much closer in terms of performance.

There is also the issue that, in 2024, Verstappen knew he could afford to be rather carefree with several of his defensive moves, as he could afford to not finish whilst his rivals needed all the points they could get - for example, he admitted that he pretty much divebombed Piastri in Abu Dhabi because he'd already won the WDC and didn't care whether he crashed into Piastri or not. However, if he can't rely on having a large points lead to defend and has to fight more closely and routinely with his rivals, that sort of attitude might start biting him if he starts getting into accidents and starts dropping points more regularly.

With regards to Kimi Antonelli, I can see him showing signs of promise in the latter stages of the season, but am doubtful that he will be "be beating George handily by the summer break". Now, it's true that Antonelli has been doing a lot of testing under the "Testing of Previous Cars" regulations - a figure of 9,000km has been thrown around - but there is still going to be a period of adjustment for him to the performance and nature of the cars and the tyres in Formula 1 (it's worth noting that the tyres used for the "Testing of Previous Cars" is a different compound to that used in the races, as Pirelli and the FIA wanted to avoid teams getting extra tyre testing via that route).

Added to that, the first section of the season before the summer break does feature several circuits - Shanghai, Suzuka, Miami and Gilles Villeneuve - that he has not raced at before, and two of those (Shanghai and Miami) are also using the sprint race format, which cuts into the available practice time for him. I would expect Russell to have the upper hand thanks to his greater experience and Mercedes to treat this year as more of a development phase for Kimi.
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I predict that 2025 will be a close season just like 2021 with a nail-biter finish. I also expect that Verstappen will triumph at the death, either against Leclerc, Norris, or both. I also believe that it will be Verstappen's last championship, as Red Bull finally gets caught, and history plays out against him.

I believe McLaren will win the constructor's, and Lawson will be the Vitaly Petrov equivalent who ruins Ferrari's potential championship by holding up BOTH their drivers for the entirety of the last race.

I expect something like

1. Verstappen
2. Leclerc
3. Norris
4. Piastri
5. Hamilton
6. Lawson (but he won't be as far as back as you think)

and so on

I predict Aston Martin to be best of the rest in a season long contest against Mercedes for 4th. Alonso will be strong enough to get the team fourth on his own, but Stroll will at least be stronger than he usually is. This one is definitely wishful thinking.

7. Alonso
8. Russell
9. Antonelli
10. Stroll

Then RB are going to shock with a very decent year. Tsunoda will dominate ala Gasly in 2021, but he and Hadjar will both consistently grab points, and Yuki will, like Gasly, leave the Red Bull management scratching their heads at why he can only perform when he's been looked over and his career with them is already over.

Williams meanwhile will have a season they absolutely don't deserve, as Sainz and Albon will keep grabbing positions the car shouldn't be capable of. As a result, one or both of them will be gone after the year is over, to greener pastures.

Haas will do as they always do and flatter to deceive. Decent car but too many races thrown away with crashes and unforced errors. Alpine and sauber will both take the year off and fight for 17th place week in week out.

11. Tsunoda
12. Sainz
13. Hadjar
14. Albon
15. Bearman
16. Gasly
17. Ocon
18. Hulkenberg
19. Doohan
20. Bortoleto

It will be fun revisiting this prediction come December. :chilton:
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Re: 2025 Crystal Ball Thread

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mario wrote: 09 Jan 2025, 20:46
With regards to Kimi Antonelli, I can see him showing signs of promise in the latter stages of the season, but am doubtful that he will be "be beating George handily by the summer break". Now, it's true that Antonelli has been doing a lot of testing under the "Testing of Previous Cars" regulations - a figure of 9,000km has been thrown around - but there is still going to be a period of adjustment for him to the performance and nature of the cars and the tyres in Formula 1 (it's worth noting that the tyres used for the "Testing of Previous Cars" is a different compound to that used in the races, as Pirelli and the FIA wanted to avoid teams getting extra tyre testing via that route).
I base this less on George's racecraft, or lack thereof, and more on the fact that Kimi is 100% Toto's guy. I can very easily see the team changing and molding around Kimi, with George there to ply the solid vet role.
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