F1 Alternativ: season 1990

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 29 Aug 2013, 15:47

http://chicanef1.com/list.pl?who=s&nc=0
this may help

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 29 Aug 2013, 19:28

Vote? What vote?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Aug 2013, 19:47

Not bad, Senna's just plugging away, nabbing points.

We'd like to retain all 3 of our drivers for 1991, and we'll test at Mondello- Senna working on sequential gearbox and Nanninni and Schumacher on floor

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 29 Aug 2013, 19:54

Will there be a specific order in which team owners can try to sign drivers? If so, I assume as Jordan will be a new team, that me and whoever takes Modena will be last.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Aug 2013, 19:58

And to Ron Dennis and Ken Tyrrell, if you continue to try and sign Senna, Flavio will set several burly Sicillian hitmen on you and your familys. Capiché?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 30 Aug 2013, 06:40

takagi_for_the_win wrote:And to Ron Dennis and Ken Tyrrell, if you continue to try and sign Senna, Flavio will set several burly Sicillian hitmen on you and your familys. Capiché?

And then the dead bodies would be buried under Benetton clothing? :lol:

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 30 Aug 2013, 10:29

pasta_maldonado wrote:Vote? What vote?

VOTING:
I have 2 very important questinons on my table!
Every team will have to vote! If a team owner don't vote he will get a reprimant! 2 reprimants and the team owner will be out!

Question 1
Reliability System
I have worked out a complete new reliability system! It will hopefully more realistic. Teams will be able to test the reliability of the cars in order to make it better!

When should i implement it?
A: start of 1991
B: after the 8th race 1990

Question 2
Driver signing

When should w start the process for 1991?
A: start of 1991
B: after the 8th race of 1990
C: after the 12th race of 1990

Please vote until 2nd of September!

FullMetalJack wrote:Will there be a specific order in which team owners can try to sign drivers? If so, I assume as Jordan will be a new team, that me and whoever takes Modena will be last.

No there will be no specific order! Jordan will most likely also be able to sign drivers after round 12!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Aug 2013, 11:05

Question 1: Lotus will vote for A.

Question 2: We will vote for option C.

I dont think we should be too concerned about 91 when we're still halfway through 1990.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 30 Aug 2013, 16:10

Hey,
thank's for the help with the sponsors!
I have no sortet out 51 sponsors! I will post my idea for the sponsoring system hopefully later today so that we can discuss it and maybe make a few changes!
Greats Hermann

Neno · Post by **Neno** » 30 Aug 2013, 18:02

Hello everyone,

I have read all the posts and it is a fantastic season so far, with lots of winners and surprises.
Jean Alesi, my favorite driver, is in the title hunt in its first full season, fantastic !

New rejects teams like Modena will be available for 1991 ?

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 30 Aug 2013, 18:04

Oil company sponsors had often relationships with some engine manufacturers, like Elf had with Renault.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 30 Aug 2013, 18:59

Bleu wrote:Oil company sponsors had often relationships with some engine manufacturers, like Elf had with Renault.

Or Shell with Honda and Agip with Ferrari.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 30 Aug 2013, 20:08

Dallara votes
1) B
2) C

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 30 Aug 2013, 21:14

SeedStriker wrote:Dallara votes
1) B
2) C

Dallara voted already!

Bleu wrote:Oil company sponsors had often relationships with some engine manufacturers, like Elf had with Renault.

We could implement this! All i nead would be a list with the relationships!

Neno wrote:Hello everyone,

I have read all the posts and it is a fantastic season so far, with lots of winners and surprises.
Jean Alesi, my favorite driver, is in the title hunt in its first full season, fantastic !

New rejects teams like Modena will be available for 1991 ?

Modena is available for 91! If you want i can sign you up with them! This would mean that all teams for 91 are taken!

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 30 Aug 2013, 21:45

Please read this post carefully!

Now i will present you the sponsoring system!
It is very easy!

There are sponsors from 3 diferent main categories(A,B,C) where A and B each have sub categories(A1,A2,B1,B2). So the categories are(A1,A2,B1,B2,C)
Every team can have a maximum of 3 sponsors! There is a limit of categorie A sponsors which mean that every team can only have 1 categorie A sponsor!
So the posibilities are:
ABB, ABC, ACC, BBB, BBC, BCC, CCC for 3 sponsors
AB, AC. BB, BC, CC for 2 sponsors
A, B, C for 1 sponsor

There will be also a chance of sponsor drop out during the season(after the 8th race) if you don't match the requirements each sponsor categorie has!
So if a sponsor say you have to be top 4 than you have to be on the 4th place in the constructorc championship after the 8th race! If you don't make it the sponsor will drop out and take half the money he gave to you with him! So if a sponsor gave you 15m$ and he drop out 7,5m$ will be deducted from your budget!

Here is the sponsor list:
A1(20m$)(Top 4)
Marlboro
Canon
Camel
A2(15m$)(Top 8)
Gitanes (French Team)
7 Up
Braun
Leyton House
Footwork
B1(5m$)(5 points)
Marlboro
Fondmetal
Honda (Honda Engine)
Renault (Renault Engine)
Ford (Ford Engine)
Fiat (Ferrari Engine)
Autopolis
Quantas
USF&G
B2(4m$)(4points)
Tic Tac
Fujifilm
Toshiba
Tag-Heuer
Barclay
Gilette
Sanyo
Denim Aftershave
Yellow Hat
C(2m$)
Shell
Blaupunkt
BP
Goodyear
Pirelli
Agip
Elf
Pioneer
Mobil 1
Epson
Lease Plan
Lucchini
Tamiya
Tommy Hilfiger
Autobacs
Bosch
Brooksfield
Bull
Calbee
CAPA
Castrol
Central Park
Courtaulds
Diavia
Essilor

Feel free to discuss the system! I'm open for changes!

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Aug 2013, 21:56

So we kust choose 3 sponsers for our team one from each category?

Do the ones with engine manufacturers mean they will only sponser those with that engine or if you get that sponser you get those engines next year?

How is it decided who gets sponsers would it be better to choose a couple from each categorie to have a better chance of gaining a sponser

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:01

Would I be able to have Toshiba and BP for Jordan next year?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:06

Brabham shall go for sponsorship from Braun and Castrol.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:09

EuroBrun would like Bosch and Epson sponsorship.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:13

To get my choices in Tyrrell will choice these sponsers

7up
Autopolis
Fujifilm

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:18

The system should be put in action for next season. Doing it right now will only made things a mess

If it's applied right now, Dallara will go with Lucchini and Agip.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:26

Ferrari want Marlboro for Block A, Fiat for block B and Shell for block C

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Aug 2013, 22:36

AGS will try to lure:

USF&G
Gillette
Lease Plan

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 31 Aug 2013, 02:02

Sponsoring isn't open right now!!!!!!!!!

Sponsoring will open AFTER the 1990 season!
peteroli34 wrote:So we kust choose 3 sponsers for our team one from each category?

Do the ones with engine manufacturers mean they will only sponser those with that engine or if you get that sponser you get those engines next year?

How is it decided who gets sponsers would it be better to choose a couple from each categorie to have a better chance of gaining a sponser

With regards to the engine manufacturer: You can only have them if you have this engines!
All sponsors will be decided with an RNG! But as i sayed: it opens up AFTER the 1990 season!

Neno · Post by **Neno** » 31 Aug 2013, 07:57

Hermann95 wrote: Modena is available for 91! If you want i can sign you up with them! This would mean that all teams for 91 are taken!

Yes, I want to sign up with them, it will be a great challenge to try to score 1 point, if we can prequalify

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 31 Aug 2013, 11:28

Hmmm, I'd imagine ABB would be the most logical choice for Benetton, as a secure top 4 team, to go for?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 31 Aug 2013, 12:33

Larrousse could aim for B2, but if I aim for a C, and then somehow I can score 5 points or so, that's going to look silly. Meh, it's just a concept anyway, plus there's still plenty of races left, so we will see.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 01 Sep 2013, 20:32

Rule Changes for 1991

1991 Teams will earn theyr money from sponsorship!
Teams will have to invest money(up to 10m$) for a new chassis which will be used in 1992! They also can use theyr old chassis(will be a bit worse)!
New point system(same as used from 1991-2003)
New car number system(same as the 1995 one)
Traction control will be legal!

PS: Midseaon holiday will be over tomorow! I will do the testing maybe today and the next race tomorow!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 02 Sep 2013, 03:43

Fuel should be on supplier basis, not sponsorship, IMO. Like in GPM2.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Sep 2013, 17:56

FMecha wrote:Fuel should be on supplier basis, not sponsorship, IMO. Like in GPM2.

Funny that you say this because i'm playing GPM2 at the moment and already had this idea! I can't say if i will do it but it is an option!

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 02 Sep 2013, 21:47

Coloni didn't take voted! This cause a reprimant for The Lukas! Next time he will be out!

Testing

Tyrell

Active Suspension system didn't worked

Eurobrun

Floor succesful
Eurobrun is now 10m$ in dept! They won't be able to spend any more money this season!

AGS

Gearbox not succesful

Leyton House

Power Steering system didn't worked

Dallara

Gearbox succesful
Adjustable Front Wing system worked

Arrows

Front Wing succesful
Suspension not succesful

Larrousse

Power Steering System didn't work

Brabham

Floor not succesful

Mclaren

Electrical System succesful

Ferrari

Cooling System succesful
Suspension not succesful

Benneton

Sequential Gearbox System didn't work
Floor not succesful

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 02 Sep 2013, 21:52

Well, that's all we can do for this season :arrow:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 03 Sep 2013, 05:39

Hermann95 wrote:Larrousse

Power Steering System didn't work

Bathplug! Third time's the charm though.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Sep 2013, 07:45

Hermann95 wrote:
Arrows

Front Wing succesful
Active Suspension not succesful

Actually we have working active suspension system. What we tested was suspension itself.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 03 Sep 2013, 09:05

Hermann95 wrote:Testing

Tyrell

Active Suspension system didn't worked

Again!! At this rate by the time we get it working the system will be banned, we must have a rubbish engineering department

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 03 Sep 2013, 14:53

Finally we have a major breakthrough and we end going into PQ. Oh, the irony...
Hopefully, the new parts will made the difference

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 04 Sep 2013, 16:35

pycku wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:
Arrows

Front Wing succesful
Active Suspension not succesful

Actually we have working active suspension system. What we tested was suspension itself.

Sorry, i made a mistake, but the suspension upgrade failed aswell!

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 08 Sep 2013, 16:56

Hey guys!
Sorry for the delay! I was very bussy the last few days, had to play a few gigs, but now i'm back!
The next race will take place tomorrow!

PS: This series will slow down a bit because i have to go to scool again! So races won't happen that fast!
Hopefully you understand it!
Greats Hermann

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Sep 2013, 18:14

Hermann95 wrote:had to play a few gigs

What are you playing, if I might ask?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 10 Sep 2013, 12:36

Shizuka wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:had to play a few gigs

What are you playing, if I might ask?

I play the drums! Last week i had to play around 20 hours(together with my band mates(practice+gigs)! But i love it and it's soooooo fun!