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FA1L wrote:According to Wikipedia, JV will race at the Indy 500 :shock:


As I and others always say - Autosport or it didn't happen.

Although the Indy 500 ponders "experimental cars" with a possible Garage 34 entry.

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FA1L wrote:According to Wikipedia, JV will race at the Indy 500 :shock:


As I and others always say - Autosport or it didn't happen.


Does ESPN count?
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FA1L wrote:According to Wikipedia, JV will race at the Indy 500 :shock:

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Well, Villeneuve raced in a lot of different series, even in Brazilian StockCar. But i can't imagine him racing in Indy 500. First, he refused racing in that tragical racing of Las Vegas, because of the safety of the cars. Second, in the last races we saw some drivers injuried by crashes (and one had to put an end in his career).
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So it's officially official now then : http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motorsport/26364805

The Canadian will drive for the Schmidt Peterson Motorsports team in the race at the historic 2.5-mile oval.
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Well, Jacques at least won't be able to late brake into someone now.

I would like to see him race and race well, actually. I'd like to see some of his hard racing now and compare it to before.
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Since its been ten minutes since Indycar has randomly changed qualifying for the 500 for no real reason, they went ahead and changed it again, again for no real reason:


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Wallio wrote:Since its been ten minutes since Indycar has randomly changed qualifying for the 500 for no real reason, they went ahead and changed it again, again for no real reason:


http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/03/3-7 ... ing-Battle


What was wrong with the old format? At least with the old format those who went into Bump Day still had a chance of not qualifying, and those who were fast enough stayed in their positions (with the exception of the Top nine, of course.) Now the Top 33 are locked in and they have to run again, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Seems silly to me.
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What series don't have gimmick points now? DTM? USCC?
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I like the double points for triple crown, but points for quails? That's just dumb
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Wallio wrote:I like the double points for triple crown, but points for quails? That's just dumb


They've been handing out points for qualifying at the Indy 500 since 2010.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:What series don't have gimmick points now? DTM? USCC?


The WEC doesn't have gimmick points, as Le Mans actually has a valid reason to be a double points race. But points systems like these are turning me off championship battles, and making me feel more like watching racing for the sake of racing. Gimmick points is not making racing championships better, yet it seems like the next hot thing on the Red Carpet.
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I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but running double points for the Triple Crown has actually balanced out the maximum available points from ovals and road/street courses (600 vs 592).

Meanwhile, Special Ed's got a second car ready for JR Hildebrand for the 500
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Wizzie wrote:I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but running double points for the Triple Crown has actually balanced out the maximum available points from ovals and road/street courses (600 vs 592).

Of course it wasn't intentional, that's a positive aspect. The point is to see how bad you can make the system before people actually stop watching. "F1 did double points for a race? We'll do it for three races in an eighteen-race series and it'll go through!"
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Wallio wrote:I like the double points for triple crown, but points for quails? That's just dumb


They've been handing out points for qualifying at the Indy 500 since 2010.


Still dumb.
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Qualification Results
The Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg



Pos. Car Driver Time Speed Round

1 14 Takuma Sato 1:01.8686 104.738 Firestone Fast Six
2 10 Tony Kanaan 1:02.1637 104.241 Firestone Fast Six
3 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay 1:02.2167 104.152 Firestone Fast Six
4 12 Will Power 1:02.3955 103.854 Firestone Fast Six
5 9 Scott Dixon 1:02.4454 103.771 Firestone Fast Six
6 25 Marco Andretti 1:02.9595 102.923 Firestone Fast Six
7 34 Carlos Munoz (R) 1:03.3955 102.214 Round 2 / Top 12
8 98 Jack Hawksworth (R) 1:03.5738 101.929 Round 2 / Top 12
9 8 Ryan Briscoe 1:03.6206 101.854 Round 2 / Top 12
10 3 Helio Castroneves 1:03.6635 101.785 Round 2 / Top 12
11 17 Sebastian Saavedra 1:03.8374 101.508 Round 2 / Top 12
12 20 Mike Conway 1:03.9618 101.310 Round 2 / Top 12
13 11 Sebastien Bourdais 1:15.8337 85.450 Qual / Group 1
14 77 Simon Pagenaud 1:12.3741 89.535 Qual / Group 2
15 7 Mikail Aleshin (R) 1:15.9111 85.363 Qual / Group 1
16 19 Justin Wilson 1:12.5890 89.270 Qual / Group 2
17 18 Carlos Huertas (R) 1:16.8105 84.363 Qual / Group 1
18 2 Juan Pablo Montoya 1:12.6994 89.134 Qual / Group 2
19 27 James Hinchcliffe 2.34.4862 41.945 Qual / Group 1
20 83 Charlie Kimball 1:13.0048 88.761 Qual / Group 2
21 15 Graham Rahal No Time No Speed Qual / Group 1
22 67 Josef Newgarden 1:13.1170 88.625 Qual / Group 2
Pursuant to Rule 8.3.5, Cars 15 & 27 - best 2 lap times invalidated in the session.


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Hope Sato wins or score a podium, just to prove his horrendous luck in the second half of 2013 doesn't continue. Montoya looking like a contender for ROTR already?
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good_Ralf wrote:Hope Sato wins or score a podium, just to prove his horrendous luck in the second half of 2013 doesn't continue. Montoya looking like a contender for ROTR already?


No. He hasn't been in a single seater since God knows when and the last time he raced American open wheelers was 2000. I'd say we give him a break.
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good_Ralf wrote:Hope Sato wins or score a podium, just to prove his horrendous luck in the second half of 2013 doesn't continue. Montoya looking like a contender for ROTR already?


No. He hasn't been in a single seater since God knows when and the last time he raced American open wheelers was 2000. I'd say we give him a break.


OK then. But I wonder what Salamander will be thinking...
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go_Rubens wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Hope Sato wins or score a podium, just to prove his horrendous luck in the second half of 2013 doesn't continue. Montoya looking like a contender for ROTR already?


No. He hasn't been in a single seater since God knows when and the last time he raced American open wheelers was 2000. I'd say we give him a break.


OK then. But I wonder what Salamander will be thinking...


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Well at least Montoya finished on the lead lap. It can only get better from here..
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Really not a bad race. Aside from Power being a little too enthusiastic about stacking the field, a general lack of driver brain fade, hard racing, and no moronic officiating. A good start to the season.
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OK, so I have just caught up with watching the St Petersberg race, post-F1/BTCC/Mothering Sunday. First thing to strike me was during the Sato/AJ Foyt feature at the start of the ESPN coverage. Why did they subtitle Sato when he was speaking in English? Isn't that a bit racist? He wasn't that hard to comprehend, was he?

Plus, I thought Montoya did about as well as Menu and Giovanardi did in the BTCC - all three returning to championships that they had previously won, all on the same day, and all ending up with mid-field results. Not at their heights, but reasonable considering that they had been away from the respective series for some years.

And THAT restart - whether it was the officials confusing the situation, or whether it was Will Power's fault, that was not clever. New rules for a restart? KISS! Sounds like it was potentially more complicated than it needed to be.

And finally, what happened to Charlie Kimball? I know he and his team are not the fastest, but they are not normally the slowest in the field are they? Not great from someone who won a race last year...
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dr-baker wrote:And finally, what happened to Charlie Kimball? I know he and his team are not the fastest, but they are not normally the slowest in the field are they? Not great from someone who won a race last year...


Err, first of all, Kimball drives for Ganassi (you know, the reigning champions and all). Secondly, he spent most of his time last year taking Dario to the cleaners and back.

As far as I recall though, he had a spin which brought out the first caution, and was never to be heard from again.
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dr-baker wrote:OK, so I have just caught up with watching the St Petersberg race, post-F1/BTCC/Mothering Sunday. First thing to strike me was during the Sato/AJ Foyt feature at the start of the ESPN coverage. Why did they subtitle Sato when he was speaking in English? Isn't that a bit racist? He wasn't that hard to comprehend, was he?

Plus, I thought Montoya did about as well as Menu and Giovanardi did in the BTCC - all three returning to championships that they had previously won, all on the same day, and all ending up with mid-field results. Not at their heights, but reasonable considering that they had been away from the respective series for some years.

And THAT restart - whether it was the officials confusing the situation, or whether it was Will Power's fault, that was not clever. New rules for a restart? KISS! Sounds like it was potentially more complicated than it needed to be.

And finally, what happened to Charlie Kimball? I know he and his team are not the fastest, but they are not normally the slowest in the field are they? Not great from someone who won a race last year...

Sato's still not the easiest to understand when compared to King Hiro, but more understandable than Hideki Mutoh for example.
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dr-baker wrote:OK, so I have just caught up with watching the St Petersberg race, post-F1/BTCC/Mothering Sunday. First thing to strike me was during the Sato/AJ Foyt feature at the start of the ESPN coverage. Why did they subtitle Sato when he was speaking in English? Isn't that a bit racist? He wasn't that hard to comprehend, was he?

Sato's still not the easiest to understand when compared to King Hiro, but more understandable than Hideki Mutoh for example.

I didn't find him any harder to understand than his boss in that clip (AJ Foyt, isn't it?).
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Onxy Wrecked wrote:Sato's still not the easiest to understand when compared to King Hiro, but more understandable than Julian Bailey for example.


Fixed ;)
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Speaking english, for me Sato>Kobayashi.
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I've been wondering from highlights, where did the double-file restarts gone?
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AxelP800 wrote:I've been wondering from highlights, where did the double-file restarts gone?



They were binned. Since race control refuse to enforce them properly anyway, its no big loss.
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dr-baker wrote:I didn't find him any harder to understand than his boss in that clip (AJ Foyt, isn't it?).

Yep, it's Foyt. And some people find those Texans hard to understand. Yet the subtitles aren't used on AJ as he'll get angry.
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Disappointing qualifying by Sato and JPM, they share row 8 for todays race. :|
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Fixed ;)


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