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good_Ralf wrote:Yannick Dalmas is to be officially replaced by Michele Alboreto from Estoril onwards. Driver decisions for 1992 are inconclusive. Is Ferrari allowed to take in their junior driver Mika Salo as a test driver?

As Salo made it on the list by winning the first Honda rookie cup race you can sign him for the rest of the season. Please anounce how much you'd like to pay him.(only for the next 4 races) Ferrari also got back 1m$, the wage for Dalmas for the last 4 races of the season.

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pycku wrote:We declared it earlier, but we will test our sequential gearbox in Donnington or other British track (if there are other participants).

Minardi will also join Arrows in testing a sequential gearbox at Donnington with Brundle, Martini and if it is ok, the recently sacked Yannick Dalmas in the 3rd car?


Are you shure starting a new high technical upgrade is the right way? Minardi is already in dept and starting the sequential gearbox upgrade would cost you 3m$ + testing costs. Minardi has still not finished the adjustable FW upgrade and the active suspension!
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Do you mean Ferrari can sign Salo as the second driver or the test driver? He will be signed as the 2nd driver if you permit it.
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Hermann95 wrote:Are you shure starting a new high technical upgrade is the right way? Minardi is already in dept and starting the sequential gearbox upgrade would cost you 3m$ + testing costs. Minardi has still not finished the adjustable FW upgrade and the active suspension!


That's the same reason why I don't test whatsoever - I would like to keep Larrousse in the green.

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Hermann95 wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Yannick Dalmas is to be officially replaced by Michele Alboreto from Estoril onwards. Driver decisions for 1992 are inconclusive. Is Ferrari allowed to take in their junior driver Mika Salo as a test driver?

As Salo made it on the list by winning the first Honda rookie cup race you can sign him for the rest of the season. Please anounce how much you'd like to pay him.(only for the next 4 races) Ferrari also got back 1m$, the wage for Dalmas for the last 4 races of the season.

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pycku wrote:We declared it earlier, but we will test our sequential gearbox in Donnington or other British track (if there are other participants).

Minardi will also join Arrows in testing a sequential gearbox at Donnington with Brundle, Martini and if it is ok, the recently sacked Yannick Dalmas in the 3rd car?


Are you shure starting a new high technical upgrade is the right way? Minardi is already in dept and starting the sequential gearbox upgrade would cost you 3m$ + testing costs. Minardi has still not finished the adjustable FW upgrade and the active suspension!

Ok then, Minardi will start the sequential gearbox next season and just work on the active suspension at Donnington.
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good_Ralf wrote:Do you mean Ferrari can sign Salo as the second driver or the test driver? He will be signed as the 2nd driver if you permit it.

After checking Salos experience i can say that the FIA will allow Ferrari to sign Salo as 2nd driver for the rest of the season.

@Minardi: change of the testing plans noticed.

pycku please check your PM.

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Honda NSX-Cup: Round 3

qualifying
1 Allan McNish (Williams) 2:00.761
2 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 2:00.921
3 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 2:00.995
4 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2:01.010
5 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 2:01.040
6 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 2:01.153
7 JC Boullion (Arrows) 2:01.181
8 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 2:01.206
9 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2:01.476
10 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 2:01.481
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 2:01.512
12 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 2:01.593
13 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 2:01.856
14 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 2:02.569
15 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 2:02.648
16 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 2:02.693
17 Simon Kane (Brabham) 2:02.758

race
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 49:33.647
2 Allan McNish (Williams) 49:35.126
3 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 49:36.722
4 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 49:37.152
5 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 49:41.700
6 Simon Kane (Brabham) 49:43.168
7 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 49:44.256
8 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 49:45.458
9 JC Boullion (Arrows) 49:49.857
10 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 49:52.220
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 49:54.109
12 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 49:54.562
13 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 49:54.799
14 Eric Helary (Ligier) 49:55.658
15 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 49:57.368
16 Marco Apicella (Modena) 49:59.812
17 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 50:14.505

Point standings
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 20
2 Eric Helary (Ligier) 12
- Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 12
4 Allan McNish (Williams) 9
5 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 6
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 5
7 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 4
- JC Boullion (Arrows) 4
9 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2
- Antonio Tamburini(Fondmetal) 2
11 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 1
- Simon Kane(Brabham) 1
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Hermann95 wrote:Are you shure starting a new high technical upgrade is the right way? Minardi is already in dept and starting the sequential gearbox upgrade would cost you 3m$ + testing costs. Minardi has still not finished the adjustable FW upgrade and the active suspension!


That's the same reason why I don't test whatsoever - I would like to keep Larrousse in the green.


Which is what I am also doing with Lotus - waiting until money is in the bank before building chassis and\or testing
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Collieafc wrote:
Shizuka wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:Are you shure starting a new high technical upgrade is the right way? Minardi is already in dept and starting the sequential gearbox upgrade would cost you 3m$ + testing costs. Minardi has still not finished the adjustable FW upgrade and the active suspension!


That's the same reason why I don't test whatsoever - I would like to keep Larrousse in the green.


Which is what I am also doing with Lotus - waiting until money is in the bank before building chassis and\or testing


It looks like it is a hard season for many teams on the financial site. One reason may be the sponsoring system(where you have to pay back money) and the other reason is that a few teams are much slower than expected(f.e. Larrousse,Dallara and Ligier).
Next season the sponsorship system will be different(no pay backs-only bonuses) and also the upgrade system will be slightly different, with small,medium and large upgrades which are depented on the amount of drivers who test the upgrade, so 1 driver=small, 2 drivers=medium and 3 drivers=large. All will have the same amount of chance to be succesful which will be around 70% i think. This should help the team owners to calculate their success a bit better.
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Hermann95 wrote:After checking Salos experience i can say that the FIA will allow Ferrari to sign Salo as 2nd driver for the rest of the season.


Then Ferrari will sign Mika Salo for the remaining four rounds, even if Alboreto is denied a second crack in the Ferrari.

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Mika Salo is now 2nd driver at Ferrari. You can name a replacement for him for the NSX-Cup if you want.
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Testing

Williams
sequential Gearbox: system didn't work

Arrows
sequential Gearbox: system worked

Modena
adjustable RW: system worked

Tyrell
traction control: system worked

Benneton
downforce: succesful

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Hermann95, can you update my team´s stats in the first post? They seem to be very out-of-date now.
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Round 13: Estoril

Pre qualifying
dry
1 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:16.890
2 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:16.930
3 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:17.140
4 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:17.638
5 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:17.858
6 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:18.484
7 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:18.682
8 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:19.222
9 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:19.468
10 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:20.122
11 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:21.038
12 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:21.108


Qualifying
very interesting qualifying result with some big names pretty far down the grid. This may be the result of some rain during the late stage of this session.
dry
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:15.694
2 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:16.348
3 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:16.384
4 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:16.420
5 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 1:16.428
6 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:16.564
7 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:16.758
8 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:16.832
9 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:16.886
10 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:16.978
11 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:17.042
12 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:17.120
13 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:17.148
14 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:17.172
15 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:17.340
16 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:17.348
17 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:17.374
18 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:17.646
19 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:17.678
20 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:17.750
21 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:17.874
22 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:17.948
23 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:18.064
24 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:18.386
25 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:18.446
26 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:18.706
27 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.884
28 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.956
29 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:19.596
30 Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) 1:19.600



Race
dry
1 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:35:45.017
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:35:46.011
3 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:35:46.831
4 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:36:16.945
5 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:36:17.869
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:36:18.277
7 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:36:19.851
8 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:36:20.597
9 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
10 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) -1 laps
11 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
12 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -2 laps
13 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -3 laps/Engine
14 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) -4 laps/Engine
- Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 60
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Suspension lap 59
- Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Brakes lap 55
- Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 53
- Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 53
- Mika Salo (Ferrari) DNF/Engine lap 48
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Suspension lap 47
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Driver error lap 37
- Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Crash lap 33
- Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) DNF/Brakes lap 31
- Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Clutch lap 23
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Suspension lap 17

Fastest lap: Bernd Schneider
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What a result! That's beyond anything I could have ever imagined!
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Ferrari's new driver for the NSX cup will be Gianni Morbidelli.
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Round 14: Spain
For the last time in 1991 Formula One will be guest on an european track. This time the spanish GP will be held on the Circuit de Catalunya near Barcelona.

Pre qualifying
dry
1 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:20.972
2 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:21.172
3 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:21.194
4 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:21.230
5 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:22.042
6 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:22.540
7 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:22.802
8 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:22.962
9 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:23.514
10 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:23.744
11 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:23.926
12 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:24.830


Qualifying
dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:19.324
2 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:19.930
3 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 1:20.128
4 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:20.178
5 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:20.198
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:20.202
7 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:20.326
8 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:20.350
9 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:20.484
10 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:20.566
11 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:20.592
12 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:20.596
13 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:20.736
14 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:20.788
15 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:20.848
16 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:20.952
17 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:21.130
18 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:21.140
19 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:21.158
20 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:21.308
21 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:21.404
22 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:21.520
23 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:21.600
24 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:21.732
25 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:21.842
26 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:22.156
27 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:22.452
28 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:22.510
29 Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) 1:22.618
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:22.754


Race
dry
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:31:31.407
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:31:32.378
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:32:12.973
4 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
5 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
7 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
8 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -1 laps
9 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
10 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
11 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -2 laps
12 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) -2 laps
13 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
14 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -3 laps
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Driver error lap 57
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Brakes lap 55
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Engine lap 51
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Suspension lap 50
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Crash lap 48
- Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 46
- Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) DNF/Brakes lap 22
- Mika Salo (Ferrari) DNF/Gearbox lap 21
- Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Collision lap 19
- JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Brakes lap 17
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Clutch lap 7
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Clutch lap 1
Fastest lap: Karl Wendlinger

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Testing is open for the last time during this season. Dont forget to hand in your chassis design plans. I know many teams will wait until next season but teams like Mclaren,Williams or Benneton have no reason for this.
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Unfortunately, I don't feel that I'm able to focus on this properly, so Porsche is up for grabs for anyone who wants it.
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Salamander wrote:Unfortunately, I don't feel that I'm able to focus on this properly, so Porsche is up for grabs for anyone who wants it.


I'm really sorry. There will be a place for you if you'd like to come back at a later date.
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Williams chassis plans sent. We'll test the sequential gearbox again at Monza with all three cars.
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Ferrari will test reliability at Jerez with all three cars.
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Hermann95 wrote:
Salamander wrote:Unfortunately, I don't feel that I'm able to focus on this properly, so Porsche is up for grabs for anyone who wants it.


I'm really sorry. There will be a place for you if you'd like to come back at a later date.


Thanks. I'll keep managing it until the end of the season though, I don't want to leave Phoenix in the lurch.
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Salamander wrote:Unfortunately, I don't feel that I'm able to focus on this properly, so Porsche is up for grabs for anyone who wants it.


I'm really sorry. There will be a place for you if you'd like to come back at a later date.


Thanks. I'll keep managing it until the end of the season though, I don't want to leave Phoenix in the lurch.

Thats fine to here. If it's ok with you i would like to let the line "Porsche needs manager" in the topic name in order to let people knew this.
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Hermann95 wrote:Thats fine to here. If it's ok with you i would like to let the line "Porsche needs manager" in the topic name in order to let people knew this.


Sure.
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Hermann95 wrote:peteroli and pycku please check your emails.


I checked it. Nothing new?

Ps all three cars will be testing reliability at donnington :)
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Chassis plans?

Also, Stefan is still punching above his weight, I'm surprised he regularly brings the car home. Obviously he's one of the surprises of the year in a car that's not capable of doing anything at the moment.

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Shizuka wrote:Chassis plans?


Yeah, I am afraid I missed something there as well. Can you refer us to the post with the details?

Meanwhile Brabham officially considers their season done and will not test, whilst publicly stating their interest in extending the free engine deal with Lamborghini.
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Hemann95, could you please email me the chassis plans regulations.

I can also confirm that Martini is being dropped to Test driver with immediate effect and Yannick Dalmas will replace him.
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Hermann95 wrote:Rules & Chassis design

Here is my brand new chassis design system(CDS):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKPxLinOTyTdGcyd1NwNXVpcVBpYk1QM2s4X1hzVGc&usp=sharing

It is really simple: You choose a base(mendatory) and an upgrade package(optional).
With the base you get a chassis and 10 "free points" which can be used to focus on a particular area of the car(grip, top speed, suspension, reliability or weight).
Each point will make your car better in the choosen area.(+1 for grip, top speed, suspension and reliability; -1 for weight).
The "upgrade packages" 1,2 or 3 for the choosen Base chassis will give you additional "free points".

Aging and "b-versions"
You will be able to make an complete overhaul of your car by making a so called "b-version". If you choose f.e. Upgrade package 1, and you want to make the b version you will have to pay the full price for the higher upgrade package, f.e. upgrade package 3, and you'll get those points. This is only possible twice a year and each chassis generation(A,B,C...) has to run at least 6 races before beeing able to upgrade it to the next version.

Aging is very simple: After the first year, the chassis will be 20% worse. After the second year it will be again 15% worse and from than on 10% per year.
f.e. Grip value of chassis XY:
Season 1(season in which its designed) 100
Season 2 80
Season 3 68
Season 3 61.2
Season 4 55.08
.
.
.
.

There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.

For 1992, each team will have to build a new chassis. From than on, it will be possible to carry it over to the next season(with the aging penalty applied).
You can start with designing your chassis for 1992 now(vie PM).
You will have to design your chassis before the last race of the season. If you design it after the last race and before the start of sponsor negotiations you will only get 1 pre-season test at the start of the next season. If you design it after sponsor negotiations you won't get any pre-season test!


Here are the regulations. The original post is on page 10 and i'll post a link to the spreadsheet on page 1.

Pycku: The email said that you have still 10 points left to distribute.

roblomas52 wrote:Hemann95, could you please email me the chassis plans regulations.

I can also confirm that Martini is being dropped to Test driver with immediate effect and Yannick Dalmas will replace him.


Will Dalmas get any payment for the last 2 races?

btw if you have any ideas for improving this series please post it here. I'm open for suggestions.
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Hermann95 wrote:
Hermann95 wrote:Rules & Chassis design

Here is my brand new chassis design system(CDS):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKPxLinOTyTdGcyd1NwNXVpcVBpYk1QM2s4X1hzVGc&usp=sharing

It is really simple: You choose a base(mendatory) and an upgrade package(optional).
With the base you get a chassis and 10 "free points" which can be used to focus on a particular area of the car(grip, top speed, suspension, reliability or weight).
Each point will make your car better in the choosen area.(+1 for grip, top speed, suspension and reliability; -1 for weight).
The "upgrade packages" 1,2 or 3 for the choosen Base chassis will give you additional "free points".

Aging and "b-versions"
You will be able to make an complete overhaul of your car by making a so called "b-version". If you choose f.e. Upgrade package 1, and you want to make the b version you will have to pay the full price for the higher upgrade package, f.e. upgrade package 3, and you'll get those points. This is only possible twice a year and each chassis generation(A,B,C...) has to run at least 6 races before beeing able to upgrade it to the next version.

Aging is very simple: After the first year, the chassis will be 20% worse. After the second year it will be again 15% worse and from than on 10% per year.
f.e. Grip value of chassis XY:
Season 1(season in which its designed) 100
Season 2 80
Season 3 68
Season 3 61.2
Season 4 55.08
.
.
.
.

There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.

For 1992, each team will have to build a new chassis. From than on, it will be possible to carry it over to the next season(with the aging penalty applied).
You can start with designing your chassis for 1992 now(vie PM).
You will have to design your chassis before the last race of the season. If you design it after the last race and before the start of sponsor negotiations you will only get 1 pre-season test at the start of the next season. If you design it after sponsor negotiations you won't get any pre-season test!


Here are the regulations. The original post is on page 10 and i'll post a link to the spreadsheet on page 1.

Pycku: The email said that you have still 10 points left to distribute.

roblomas52 wrote:Hemann95, could you please email me the chassis plans regulations.

I can also confirm that Martini is being dropped to Test driver with immediate effect and Yannick Dalmas will replace him.


Will Dalmas get any payment for the last 2 races?

btw if you have any ideas for improving this series please post it here. I'm open for suggestions.

Thank you so much for posting that, Dalmas will get paid 50k per race for the last 2 races.
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Thanks for clarifying it.
I'm going to mail you the details tomorrow.

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Testing

Williams
sequential Gearbox: system didn't work

Ferrari
reliability: succesful

Arrows
reliability: succesful
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Round 15: Suzuka

Pre qualifying
dry
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:34.084
2 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:34.642
3 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:34.738
4 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:35.476
5 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:35.638
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:36.050
7 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:36.104
8 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:36.280
9 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:36.280
10 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:37.244
11 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:37.870
12 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:37.954


Qualifying
light rain
1 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:41.140
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:41.242
3 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:41.708
4 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:41.714
5 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:41.890
6 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:42.642
7 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:42.682
8 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 1:42.968
9 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:43.040
10 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:43.042
11 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:43.180
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:43.218
13 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:43.376
14 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:43.612
15 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:43.738
16 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:43.822
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:43.942
18 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:44.050
19 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:44.118
20 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:44.182
21 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:44.264
22 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:44.346
23 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:44.562
24 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:44.752
25 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:44.936
26 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:45.036
27 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:45.530
28 Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) 1:45.642
29 Yannik Dalmas (Minardi-Honda) 1:46.560
30 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:46.950


Race
dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:25:40.937
2 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:26:17.986
3 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:26:18.295
4 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:26:29.468
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:26:57.695
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:27:07.224
7 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:27:15.637
8 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:27:19.817
9 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
10 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -2 laps
11 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -2 laps
12 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
13 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -2 laps
14 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
15 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
- Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 48
- Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) DNF/Clutch lap 47
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Crash lap 46
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Brakes lap 45
- Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) DNF/Suspension lap 45
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Engine lap 42
- Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 38
- Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Crash lap 31
- Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Engine lap 28
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Driver error lap 28
- Mika Salo (Ferrari) DNF/Driver error lap 26
- Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Gearbox lap 14
- JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Gearbox lap 8
- Yannik Dalmas (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 6
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 5

Congratulations to Jean Alesi and Mclaren for winning the title.
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BMS Scuderia Italia-Dallara will be available to whoever wants to take it after the last round of the season.
JJ Lehto is still contracted to the team for another year and Yamaha will be powering the team again in 1992. These are the two multi-years contracts I signed when I took over the team at the end of 1990.
No decision has been made on the 1992 chassis. The team is a bit in debt, but will get $3.5m as prize money if it stays 11th in the championship.
And if nobody wants it, I guess an early fusion with Minardi could work.

Thanks for the fun moments by the way.
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As I have exams I cannot properly manage a team, so jordan is up for grabs
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andrew wrote:As I have exams I cannot properly manage a team, so jordan is up for grabs

I'm really sorry. So we have at least 2 teams and one engine manufacturer without manager for the next season. As i also have exams in may and june i don't know if i should continue this series at all or just make a brake....
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Hermann95 wrote:
andrew wrote:As I have exams I cannot properly manage a team, so jordan is up for grabs

I'm really sorry. So we have at least 2 teams and one engine manufacturer without manager for the next season. As i also have exams in may and june i don't know if i should continue this series at all or just make a brake....

I will come back after the exams have finished
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...finally
Round 16: Adelaide

Pre-Qualifying
dry
1 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.006
2 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.036
3 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:19.594
4 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.722
5 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:19.762
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:19.798
7 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:20.774
8 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:20.824
9 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:20.842
10 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:21.252
11 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:21.280
12 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:21.354


Qualifying
dry
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 1:18.286
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:18.326
3 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:18.346
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:18.400
5 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:18.420
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:18.454
7 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:18.466
8 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:18.586
9 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:18.662
10 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:18.682
11 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:18.712
12 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:18.824
13 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:18.858
14 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:18.978
15 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:19.166
16 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:19.340
17 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:19.394
18 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:19.484
19 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:19.570
20 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:19.792
21 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:19.804
22 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:19.952
23 Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) 1:19.984
24 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:20.036
25 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:20.058
26 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:20.388
27 Yannik Dalmas (Minardi-Honda) 1:20.598
28 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:20.610
29 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:20.778
30 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:20.796


Race
dry
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:52:00.321
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:52:14.095
3 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 1:52:17.473
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:52:24.398
5 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:52:37.476
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:52:41.555
7 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:53:14.307
8 Michael Schumacher (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
9 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
10 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
11 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
12 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
13 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) -3 laps
14 Eric van de Poele (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
- Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Crash lap 74
- JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Collision lap 57
- Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) DNF/Crash lap 54
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Crash lap 42
- Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 42
- Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) DNF/Crash lap 42
- Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Suspension lap 37
- Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) DNF/Clutch lap 20
- Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Suspension lap 18
- Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) DNF/Suspension lap 13
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Driver error lap 4
- Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Engine lap 3
Fastest lap: Ayrton Senna

Need your help
You may have noticed that this series struggled in the last couple of weeks/months. No i'm at a point where i really need your help. At the moment i have the time and the motivation to run a series, but i'm not quite sure if it is this series. It was really fun to run this series but a few things didn't run quite well and so i really have to make a decision now. Should i keep this series running or not?
If i keep it i have to revamp quite a few things because some of them are to complex, time consuming or frustrating(I'm looking at you upgrade system).
If i drop it i'll defenitly run a new series, although i don't know which kind of series this'll be. I have a few things in mind but i really have to think about it first.

I'd really appreciate your feedback about this because it will help me making a decision.

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Hermann95 wrote:Need your help
You may have noticed that this series struggled in the last couple of weeks/months. No i'm at a point where i really need your help. At the moment i have the time and the motivation to run a series, but i'm not quite sure if it is this series. It was really fun to run this series but a few things didn't run quite well and so i really have to make a decision now. Should i keep this series running or not?
If i keep it i have to revamp quite a few things because some of them are to complex, time consuming or frustrating(I'm looking at you upgrade system).
If i drop it i'll defenitly run a new series, although i don't know which kind of series this'll be. I have a few things in mind but i really have to think about it first.

I'd really appreciate your feedback about this because it will help me making a decision.

Greats Hermann


This series has been great, a bit confusing (especially the 1992 chassis design sheet which I might have cocked-up on doing) but good fun. The complicated bits have made me lose interest as well but personally if you want run a management series for a more modern era of F1 e.g. the mid or late-2000s like KL-racing I'd be very happy to sign up on here. Or run a series for another motorsport series such as IndyCar/ChampCar.
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I've really enjoyed this series. If you can stick with it, go for it!

good_Ralf wrote:if you want run a management series for a more modern era of F1 e.g. the mid or late-2000s like KL-racing I'd be very happy to sign up on here. Or run a series for another motorsport series such as IndyCar/ChampCar.


Yeah, but that would lead to over-saturation, which is the main reason I've put my own series down for now. To get interest, there needs to be a number of USPs associated with a series, and if it was based in the time period in which you were suggesting he'd have to compete with three other series.

Although there are far too many management games at the moment, Hermann's is still very good and it would be a shame to see it go.
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Ataxia wrote:I've really enjoyed this series. If you can stick with it, go for it!

good_Ralf wrote:if you want run a management series for a more modern era of F1 e.g. the mid or late-2000s like KL-racing I'd be very happy to sign up on here. Or run a series for another motorsport series such as IndyCar/ChampCar.


Yeah, but that would lead to over-saturation, which is the main reason I've put my own series down for now. To get interest, there needs to be a number of USPs associated with a series, and if it was based in the time period in which you were suggesting he'd have to compete with three other series.

Although there are far too many management games at the moment, Hermann's is still very good and it would be a shame to see it go.


over-saturation is another reason i forgot to mention in my post above. We already have 4 F1 series in the 90's with 3 of them in the early/mid 90's. Pretty much every other period is also a bit saturated, at least with F1, and there are series, like f.e. Pi's, which are so good that you just can't compete with them ;)

Btw. thanks for the feedback.
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They're are way too many F1 series. I say drop this and keep CRS going. I was really enjoying that one.
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Wallio wrote:They're are way too many F1 series. I say drop this and keep CRS going. I was really enjoying that one.

CRS is very unlikely to continue because i don't really have any motivation for this left... i also have to admit that i never had a real concept for running it, it was just ran on day by day decisions...
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Well, I'd say we could use a (maybe even ASMF canon) classic IndyCar series, the whole situation is a bit barren on that front.

Obviously I would like to continue to have this series, but if you don't have the drive for it, cut off the life support now rather than begin a new half-arsed season. The latter would help nobody.
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