The _TCC Series Thread

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 30 Sep 2014, 20:26

Samster wrote:Say something bad about TOCA and Gow will threaten to take your license away. Unless your name is Jason Plato, then it seems you can say whatever the hell you like.
http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/team-dy ... -comments/

Even more annoying was Gow's defense on the btcc.net forum when accused of biased, declaring it nonsense and completely ignoring that fact that he's allowed Plato to get away with murder for years, then gets on his soapbox and claims the accusation to be offensive to the officials and stewards. In short GO HOME GOW!!!
http://www.btccforum.net/forum/showthre ... ns-of-Bias

This whole nonsense is totally pissing me off and seriously putting me off BTCC. Honestly, WTCC has been a joke for years, F1 is going rapidly down the pan, and now the mini-Bernie (for that's what he is these days, he's been in power for far too long and it's having the same effect) is losing the plot. What will I have left to watch?
Formula E I guess...that's started off ridiculous, it can't get any more so!

The Civic Tourer has probably not been the best car this year, although it was clearly competitive up until Rockingham when mysteriously (ie through blatant cheating by Gow and his friends) it's been nowhere near the pace since. It comes to something when clearly abysmal drivers like Marc Hynes, Warren Scott and Jack Clarke are getting the better of Shedden and Neal. Also, at Silverstone it was apparently OK for the rest of the field to knock them from pillar to post. Clarke had a bloody cheek to try to blame Collard's accident on Shedden on live TV.
As usual, Plato gets up to his usual tricks, bashing Turkington twice into a corner and therefore getting Giovanardi innocently shoved out of the way in the process. I just don't get it, do they want the MGs to win because they're British cars or something? If so, someone should point out that they are utterly terrible cars.

It should be pointed out that although I'm a Team Dynamics fan more than a Pirtek Team fan, the blatant cheating has clearly affected Jordan too (though not Depper, as he's been laughable all season) and I sincerely hope that it won't affect the overall result of Turkington winning the title as he's driven the backside off the BMW this season and deserves it.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 30 Sep 2014, 20:37

Barbazza wrote:
Samster wrote:Say something bad about TOCA and Gow will threaten to take your license away. Unless your name is Jason Plato, then it seems you can say whatever the hell you like.
http://www.btcccrazy.co.uk/btcc/team-dy ... -comments/

Even more annoying was Gow's defense on the btcc.net forum when accused of biased, declaring it nonsense and completely ignoring that fact that he's allowed Plato to get away with murder for years, then gets on his soapbox and claims the accusation to be offensive to the officials and stewards. In short GO HOME GOW!!!
http://www.btccforum.net/forum/showthre ... ns-of-Bias

This whole nonsense is totally pissing me off and seriously putting me off BTCC. Honestly, WTCC has been a joke for years, F1 is going rapidly down the pan, and now the mini-Bernie (for that's what he is these days, he's been in power for far too long and it's having the same effect) is losing the plot. What will I have left to watch?
Formula E I guess...that's started off ridiculous, it can't get any more so!

The Civic Tourer has probably not been the best car this year, although it was clearly competitive up until Rockingham when mysteriously (ie through blatant cheating by Gow and his friends) it's been nowhere near the pace since. It comes to something when clearly abysmal drivers like Marc Hynes, Warren Scott and Jack Clarke are getting the better of Shedden and Neal. Also, at Silverstone it was apparently OK for the rest of the field to knock them from pillar to post. Clarke had a bloody cheek to try to blame Collard's accident on Shedden on live TV.
As usual, Plato gets up to his usual tricks, bashing Turkington twice into a corner and therefore getting Giovanardi innocently shoved out of the way in the process. I just don't get it, do they want the MGs to win because they're British cars or something? If so, someone should point out that they are utterly terrible cars.

It should be pointed out that although I'm a Team Dynamics fan more than a Pirtek Team fan, the blatant cheating has clearly affected Jordan too (though not Depper, as he's been laughable all season) and I sincerely hope that it won't affect the overall result of Turkington winning the title as he's driven the backside off the BMW this season and deserves it.

The Hondas don't always drive perfectly, although whoever does drive like a twat GIO seems to be worse off. Turks for the title

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Oct 2014, 15:04

Barbazza wrote:As usual, Plato gets up to his usual tricks, bashing Turkington twice into a corner and therefore getting Giovanardi innocently shoved out of the way in the process. I just don't get it, do they want the MGs to win because they're British cars or something? If so, someone should point out that they are utterly terrible cars.

I feel the need to point out that MG are not even British any more; they are Chinese. MG used to stand for Morgan Garages. According to the Chinese, it now means Modern Gentleman... :roll:

I'll be happy with Turkington's eventual championship success this season.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 01 Oct 2014, 17:22

dr-baker wrote:
Barbazza wrote:As usual, Plato gets up to his usual tricks, bashing Turkington twice into a corner and therefore getting Giovanardi innocently shoved out of the way in the process. I just don't get it, do they want the MGs to win because they're British cars or something? If so, someone should point out that they are utterly terrible cars.

I feel the need to point out that MG are not even British any more; they are Chinese. MG used to stand for Morgan Garages. According to the Chinese, it now means Modern Gentleman... I'll be happy with Turkington's eventual championship success this season.

Not quite Baker, it was Morris Garages.

Like the Chinese takeover or not (and I agree it's not not exactly great), it's kept people in jobs in Birmingham and secured the future of an iconic brand. Yes it's nothing like the original MG, but considering the fact that by the mid 00s it had been mis-used by its various owners for at least 20 years, it's hardly a new departure to have the Chinese use it in this way.

I mean this was often about as good as it got! Re-badged crap!

I think it's great that they've committed to the BTCC for three years now with a proper programme and are giving the UK market a real go. Better than just letting it slide into oblivion like the rest of the British car industry. The fact it's taken the Chinese to keep it going rather than anyone in Britain just shows how much Tony Blair's New Labour valued it's own voters and shows just how much businessmen and entrepreneurs in this country cared about the manufacturing sector. What crying shame that turned out to be only a few years later when Cameron started going on about needing manufacturing to help the economy out!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Oct 2014, 19:01

AndreaModa wrote:
dr-baker wrote:I feel the need to point out that MG are not even British any more; they are Chinese. MG used to stand for Morgan Garages. According to the Chinese, it now means Modern Gentleman... I'll be happy with Turkington's eventual championship success this season.

Not quite Baker, it was Morris Garages.

Of course it is. Just getting confused with those three- and four-wheelers that my dad likes...

Post by **Miguel98** » 04 Oct 2014, 09:22

Meanwhile, in WTCC, it has been announced the format for the Nordschleife round of next year's champioship.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/116157

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 05 Oct 2014, 08:59

The Lada wins the race 2 in Huff, good news, but we are still witing Bianchi's news....

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Oct 2014, 13:02

AxelP800 wrote:The Lada wins the race 2 in Huff, good news.

That is good news. Really happy for Huff and the whole team.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 05 Oct 2014, 13:18

Great race for Lada. At least that's one thing to cheer up the mood.
That makes me even more impatient for the next season and Lada Vesta.
If they can make it work with a tiny Granta, who knows what might become of a much bigger sedan?

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 05 Oct 2014, 16:14

Wonder what Lukoil brand managers will be thinking now as they ditched Lada sponsorship a week ago with immediate effect. :lol:

Great achievement by Rob Huff. Shows just how talented that guy is and that he can win races with every dog of a car. Particularly seen last year in Macao.

Post by **Miguel98** » 05 Oct 2014, 21:25

Closest finish ever...?

:mrgreen:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Oct 2014, 22:10

Miguel98 wrote:Closest finish ever...?

Would like to see a photo of that...

Post by **Miguel98** » 06 Oct 2014, 17:40

dr-baker wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:Closest finish ever...?

Would like to see a photo of that...

This should do the trick hopefully

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 06 Oct 2014, 18:17

Miguel98 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:Closest finish ever...?

Would like to see a photo of that...

This should do the trick hopefully

That's not bad. Even though as they're crossing the line, you can't quite see the front of one of the cars, you can tell that it was a mightily close finish. Thanks for sharing that.

Post by **Londoner** » 12 Oct 2014, 08:31

So Loeb takes out Muller and pretty much gifts the title to Lopez?

I'm happy, because if there's one driver I despise more than Jason Plato, it's Yvan Muller. What would be even better is if Muller ragequits Citroen now.

BTCC finale today, and it looks like Turks will wrap up the title in race 1, even with PLATOWINSLOL running wild at the front. I'm OK with this.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 12 Oct 2014, 08:57

MEHDI BENNANI!
Does a thing, wins Race 2 in Shanghai and nearly passes out

Post by **Londoner** » 12 Oct 2014, 11:42

Colin Turkington is the 2014 BTCC champion! Massively deserved, he's been driving like a demon the entire season.

ROTR has to be Gordon Shedden, refusing to give Gio any space going into Paddock Hill at the start, gets himself spun, and ends up causing a multi-car pile-up. I used to support him, but he's becoming more like Plato every bloody race.

So many damaged cars in that race.

Post by **Miguel98** » 12 Oct 2014, 13:35

Pardon my language, but what a bathplug' James Hunt Plato is.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 12 Oct 2014, 13:36

Sometimes I want to do a Homer Simpson on Jason Plato. Knocking poor Turkington out of the lead. Muppet :roll:

And seconds later Mat Jackson throws away the lead by spinning all on his own. Carnage

Post by **Londoner** » 12 Oct 2014, 16:16

Plato's been given a 10 second post race penalty and has been sent to the back of the grid for Race 3. This means Adam Morgan inherits the win, which is his first BTCC win. Considering he nearly won the race on merit, I'm sure he'd rather have done it that way instead of having it handed to him.

But no matter, this means we've got 11 different winners this season. Maybe a 12th in the last race of the year? The first three drivers on the grid for the race have never won a BTCC race...

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 12 Oct 2014, 16:45

Don't see how Martin Depper won't be winning DBTMOTY this season

Post by **Miguel98** » 12 Oct 2014, 16:54

And that's BTCC done this year... :cry:

Congrat's to Turkington though! Best driver all year long.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 12 Oct 2014, 18:12

Congrats to Turkington, properly deserved the title and was easily the driver of the championship. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke either. Also nice to see Adam Morgan pick up his first win as well.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 12 Oct 2014, 19:13

Race two saw Merc win their first outright win ever, becoming the 25th manufacturer to do so. And their last class victory was in 1963...

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 12 Oct 2014, 20:50

MORGAN!!!!!

TURKS

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 12 Oct 2014, 21:14

andrew wrote:MORGAN!!!!!
TURKS

PLATO (race two) :evil:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 12 Oct 2014, 21:18

dr-baker wrote:
andrew wrote:MORGAN!!!!!
TURKS

PLATO (race two)

JACKSON (race two)

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 13 Oct 2014, 15:18

dr-baker wrote:
andrew wrote:MORGAN!!!!!
TURKS

PLATO (race two)

No Idea why he tried that, that never works into paddock, what an idiot

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 13 Oct 2014, 16:17

Plato never learns. He will be remembered much more by his crashes and his silly fights with Matt Neal.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 13 Oct 2014, 18:06

Dj_bereta wrote:Plato never learns. He will be remembered much more by his crashes and his silly fights with Matt Neal.

True, you could say the same about Neal however
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAB-E5e7g54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFteHmCJTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAf1427xkyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGlvzvDT97s

4 videos showing plato crashes and incidents

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 Oct 2014, 20:06

andrew wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Plato never learns. He will be remembered much more by his crashes and his silly fights with Matt Neal.

True, you could say the same about Neal however

They're both jackasses and they deserve each other. And Shedden, for that matter.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 13 Oct 2014, 20:26

Salamander wrote:
andrew wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Plato never learns. He will be remembered much more by his crashes and his silly fights with Matt Neal.

True, you could say the same about Neal however

They're both jackasses and they deserve each other. And Shedden, for that matter.

Shedden also used to be the clean one, now the Honda has slightly less power not any more

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Oct 2014, 20:32

Infiniti joining the BTCC for next season? Sam Tordoff's been retweeting stuff to do with them tonight, so if this does come to fruition, he could probably be driving for them...

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 15 Oct 2014, 20:38

East Londoner wrote:

Infiniti joining the BTCC for next season? Sam Tordoff's been retweeting stuff to do with them tonight, so if this does come to fruition, he could probably be driving for them...

Looks nice

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Oct 2014, 20:57

Meanwhile, Alan Gow's threatening to dick over WSR and RAR next season :roll:

Why doesn't he understand the reason WSR cleaned up this year is because Turks is a world class driver. Last season, the BMW was brand new and pretty awful for most of the season, yet Turks almost won the championship with it. Why is such a surprise to Gow that Turks would dominate in a sorted car? Rob Collard's a decent hand behind the wheel, and he was nowhere for most of 2013.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 15 Oct 2014, 21:24

Might seem obvious but I'm calling a Jordan/Tordoff line-up for Infiniti next year. Jordan with his Red Bull links and Tordoff thanks to his re-tweets.

Seeing as it's being promoted officially, will we have three manufacturer teams next season? That would be sweet. The brilliant thing is, two of the three are fairly niche players when it comes to the British car industry. How often do you see an MG or Infiniti being driven around? So much for being about your average family hatchback/saloon! :lol:

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Oct 2014, 09:06

It's confirmed, Infiniti Support Our Paras Racing is a thing for 2015

Whilst it's great to have another manufacturer in the BTCC, and it's for a great cause, that driving line-up isn't...brilliant, if I'm honest. I've never heard of either driver until this morning...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 16 Oct 2014, 09:16

In Autosport's article, they name Derek Palmer (team owner) and Richard Hawkin as drivers, neither of whom I have heard of before. And it'll be known as the Infiniti Support Our Paras Racing team, and will employing injured paratroopers to work for the team (I am now suddenly a fan of the team for that). I suppose it is similar to what Race2Recovery aims to achieve on the Dakar Rally?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 16 Oct 2014, 09:32

East Londoner wrote:It's confirmed, Infiniti Support Our Paras Racing is a thing for 2015

Whilst it's great to have another manufacturer in the BTCC, and it's for a great cause, that driving line-up isn't...brilliant, if I'm honest. I've never heard of either driver until this morning...

After nosing around a bit on Google, what I have determined is that one driver is the son of the team boss (always a great idea *cough* Graham Rahal *cough*), and doesn't appear to have raced since 2010, and the other is moving up from club racing, and is a pay driver.

I mean, it's great that they're supporting injured paratroopers, and I hope it works out, but they won't be accomplishing much with that driver lineup.

Post by **Ataxia** » 16 Oct 2014, 09:52

Support our Paras!

I'm now underwhelmed; thought "ooh, Infinitis, they might tempt a few big drivers". Nope, just a couple of...stooges.

The charity aspect is nice, I guess, but I've got my own opinions on the armed forces so I'm not gonna be looking out for them...they'll probably be fighting with Welch Motorsport anyway.