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CaptainGetz12 wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 16:02 (With permission from Nessafox) Firstly, Rob Slotemaker will borrow a car from Reg Parnell again. He will pay for all repairs and transport.
Team: Slotemaker Garage
Cooper T45 5 - Climax FPV IV 4

With help from Jo Bonnier, Ulf Norinder will be loaned the following Ferrari (Miguel98):
Team: Ulf Norinder
Ferrari 246 chassis 3, Ferrari 143 engine 6
With 'he', Gets does not mean Reg Parnell, just to clarify it :P
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Jaroslav Juhan
1-20: returns to racing one last time, getting a last-minute flight from Guatemala City to drive the Fry
21-100: prefers to stay at home and leave the opportunity to someone else
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Easiest decision of his life: Juhan will not be driving for Fry

Sture Nottorp
1-40: accepts Fry's offer of an F1 qualifying session
41-100: does not feel confident enough to make this his first go at either Zandvoort or single seaters
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He prefers to just focus on his upcoming Le Mans entry.

"Beurlys"
1-60: makes his first single seater appearance with Fry
61-100: turned off by the prospect of driving a car that isn't a Ferrari, he turns down the offer
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It's a close call, but Beurlys will be joining Mike Parkes in the two-car Fry operation in Zandvoort.

Jean Blaton, a.k.a. Beurlys - 29 - BEL
Formula 1

Nothing
Sportscars
Winner of the 1957 Roskilde Ring S2.0 race
2nd in the 1958 12 Hours of Reims (with Willy Mairesse)
2nd in the 1957 Roskilde Ring Production race
6th in the 1958 24 Hours of Le Mans (with Alain de Changy)

Ulf Norinder - 25 - SWE
Formula 1

Nothing
Sportscars
7th in the 1958 Eläintarhanajo
8th in the 1958 Governor's Trophy (2nd in the Preliminary race)
12th in the 1958 12 Hours of Reims (with Jo Bonnier)
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Re: Alt-1959: French Grand Prix!

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With permission from Tommy, here is a last minute entry for the Dutch GP for Cooper

Bruce McLaren will drive a Cooper T45 1 with a Climax FPF V2 engine

and Peter Collins will drive a Cooper T45 2 with a Climax FPF V3 engine

While we're at it, I'll be fully repairing the Cooper T45-4.
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Re: Alt-1959: French Grand Prix!

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Radio Free Europe wrote: New Eastern Bloc team on the horizon?

Jerzy Jankowski, last year's winner of the Polish 1300cm^3 and 750cm^3 Championship, looks to enter his own cars in Formula 1!

Jankowski is the director of Warsaw-based Osrodek Budowy Samochodow Wyczynowych (OSBW for short), where he has already built 4 Formula 3-level cars - as the first real racing cars of the country, the cars have swept the Polish Car Racing Championship, winning all races of the season.

"Last year was a big success for us, and we're looking to go even higher this year", said Jankowski in an interview with a local newspaper. "We have plans to enter 2 brand new cars into the German Grand Prix, and expand our schedule for 1960 if the cars show promise."

The team doesn't yet have Formula 1-spec engines, but Jankowski is not discouraged. "We have received some financial help from the government, so getting engines shouldn't be a problem."

Despite the team's optimism about the cars themselves, Jerzy is worried about the driver's side of the team. "The drivers we have lined up are clearly talented, but the FIA might not see it that way - I hear they are quite strict on the licensing side."

The drivers have not yet been confirmed, but insider sources tell us the main candidates for the role are Jankowski himself and Longin Bielak. Despite Jankowski winning last year's Polish title, it was his first season in cars - though he has around a decade of experience in racing motorcycles. Bielak has more experience - having raced for a decade already, he won 3 Polish Championships between 1955 and 1957, and finished 2nd last year.

Whether the team gets off the ground remains to be seen.
I am displeased with the lack of commies on the grid, so here we are. :P
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Re: Alt-1959: French Grand Prix!

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May 30th 1959, Dutch Grand Prix qualifying

Three races into the season and no driver has scored points more than once. With general unreliability being the major theme so far, we've also seen a very even playing field at the front with B.C.M.A., Ferrari, O.S.C.A., Voeckler and even Lotus all showing their worth. With a repeat of 1955 on everyone's hands but few potential contenders off the board, we're likely to see someone take out a real lead in Zandvoort. Who will it be?

1. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
2. Rob Slotemaker (Slotemaker Garage) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
3. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1
4. Beurlys (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
5. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
6. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
7. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
8. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
9. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
10. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
11. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
12. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
13. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
14. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
15. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
16. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
17. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
18. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
19. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
20. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
21. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
22. Ulf Norinder (Ulf Norinder) - Ferrari 246 chassis 3, Ferrari 143 engine 6
23. Robert la Caze (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
24. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
25. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
26. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, BRM P26 engine 3
27. Olivier Gendebien (Owen Racing Organisation) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 4
28. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
29. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
30. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 2
31. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 3
  • The Dutch contingent of de Beaufort and Slotemaker is back after the latter finished the French Grand Prix.
  • Despite the much smaller grid size, David Fry has brought two cars to Zandvoort. Mike Parkes is still in the first car, but the car loaned to Alain Dagan in France has been brought in-house for Belgian sportscar specialist Jean Blaton, a.k.a. Beurlys.
  • Surtees' third in Montlhéry put B.C.M.A. in the championship lead after Brabham's Monaco win, but only by a single point. They're clearly still rapid, but can the reliability come through?
  • Lotus' three-man squad has solidified, and Masten Gregory and particularly Alan Stacey have shown the Lotus 16 is more than capable.
  • The money must be running short for BRP after two collisions in two races, but Jim Russell is still here!
  • Honoré Wagner's deep pockets are still not leading to success, but his tenth place in France is his first finish so far.
  • O.S.C.A. are still second overall thanks to their Australian win, but poor luck lately (particularly for Ramos) will need remedying in the next few weeks.
  • Ferrari, meanwhile, have bagged their first win with Bonnier, but they still need to hope Hill and Gerini can provide adequate support.
  • Roy Salvadori's eighth place in France betrayed his competitiveness, running fifth early on. Vanwall's car may be a year old, but there's life in it.
  • France was a torrid race for Centro Sud and it'll be a struggle for them to qualify with only 22 spots, but von Trips has shown promise.
  • The least expected entry on the list is undoubtedly that of young Swede Ulf Norinder, whose early sportscar forays have been unremarkable. Jo Bonnier does vouch for him, which has allowed him a single-race licence for now, and he at least has competent machinery in the form of a title-winning Ferrari.
  • André Simon was well within a shot of winning the last two Grands Prix, making clear that Voeckler's new machine is once again a contender. While Tavano and Trintignant stand-in la Caze have proven competent, Simon now has a real chance to end his seven-year win drought.
  • The Owen roster has changed since France, with Ruttman's B.C.M.A. engine replaced by a BRM P26 inside the Lotus 12. The O.S.C.A.-BRM second car has also been restored, with Lotus refugee Olivier Gendebien picking up where Alan Stacey left off.
  • Rob Walker's hopes seemed low when González left for O.S.C.A., but Stuart Lewis-Evans has finally shown his promise from 1955 with a fifth place that could easily have been third. Gurney had his struggles in the pack, but don't count him out either.
  • Finally, Cooper almost missed the event entirely when a shake-up in their admin department led to the entry forms not being received by the organisers in time. Once this was realised, a force-majeure exception was requested and finally granted, leaving the entry list 30 cars strong.
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Qualifying performances!

De Beaufort: 84-108
Slotemaker: 89-115
Parkes: 93-111
Beurlys: 94-110
Brabham: 87-115
Surtees: 90-116
Moss: 86-110
Gregory: 83-112
Stacey: 85-109
Davison: 94-111
Russell: 86-119
Wagner: 99-108
Ramos: 84-118
González: 82-106
G. Hill: 81-109
Bonnier: 86-108
P. Hill: 90-116
Gerini: 99-117
Salvadori: 89-110
Von Trips: 93-113
Sanesi: 93-117
Norinder: 91-105
La Caze: 85-108
Simon: 78-108
Tavano: 85-108
Ruttman: 94-110
Gendebien: 83-115
Lewis-Evans: 87-106
Gurney: 89-111
McLaren: 89-112
Collins: 81-109
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Qualifying results
1. Alan Stacey (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:34.71
2. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - 1:34.79
3. Stirling Moss (B.C.M.A.) - 1:35.23
4. Hernando da Silva Ramos (O.S.C.A.) - 1:35.42
5. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) - 1:35.46
6. Phil Hill (Ferrari) - 1:36.19
7. Masten Gregory (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:36.52
8. Jo Bonnier (Ferrari) - 1:37.17
9. Lex Davison (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:38.11
10. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) - 1:38.17
11. Gerino Gerini (Ferrari) - 1:38.32
12. Bruce McLaren (Cooper-Climax) - 1:38.48
13. Jim Russell (Cooper-BRM) - 1:38.78
14. Peter Collins (Cooper-Climax) - 1:38.82
15. André Simon (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) - 1:39.11
16. Fernand Tavano (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) - 1:39.23
17. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:39.24
18. John Surtees (B.C.M.A.) - 1:39.36
19. Dan Gurney (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:39.61
20. Robert la Caze (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) - 1:40.53
21. Roy Salvadori (Vanwall) - 1:41.18
22. Consalvo Sanesi (O.S.C.A.) - 1:41.43
23. Wolfgang von Trips (O.S.C.A.) - 1:42.26
24. Troy Ruttman (Lotus-BRM) - 1:42.95
25. Olivier Gendebien (O.S.C.A.-BRM) - 1:43.07
26. Carel Godin de Beaufort (O.S.C.A.) - 1:44.41
27. Honoré Wagner (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) - 1:45.56
28. Rob Slotemaker (Cooper-Climax) - 1:48.08
29. Ulf Norinder (Ferrari) - 1:50.59
30. Mike Parkes (Fry-Borgward) - 1:55.66
31. "Beurlys" (Fry-Borgward) - 1:56.60


That's the first pole position for both Alan Stacey and Team Lotus! Brabham and Moss, both with quite a few poles of their own, will line up next to him tomorrow. Ramos and González will occupy the second row in the O.S.C.A., while Ferrari come down to earth after their French GP performance with a 6-8-11 starting position. Collins, Simon and Surtees disappoint in particular, all qualifying behind the spectacular Jim Russell, who gets the BRP to thirteenth on the grid. Bruce McLaren getting up to twelfth and ahead of his teammate was a good performance too. Owen will not be happy with their weekend, both Ruttman and Gendebien failing to make the cut and ending up behind both Scuderia Centro Sud cars. Sanesi, meanwhile, found a bit of his old pace with a stellar pair of laps putting him on the grid. He may not get anywhere near another pole position, but he's got some juice left after all.

There has been word that the Dutch entries of de Beaufort and Slotemaker are petitioning the stewards to allow at least one of them onto the grid to garner more attendance and bolster the prize money pool. It is unclear whether this will come to pass.
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May 31st 1959, Dutch Grand Prix

Stacey led into Tarzanbocht with Moss close behind and Brabham third, everyone else single file, but as they came by to finish lap one, it was Moss with a narrow lead over Stacey. Stacey had none of it, however, and took the lead back into Tarzan to begin lap 2. Bonnier and Surtees also fancied moves, passing Gregory and Lewis-Evans respectively. Further behind, Brabham appeared to be struggling early on with Ramos getting in front of him to take third and the queue behind him only growing with Phil Hill, González, Bonnier and Gregory all waiting for a look in. The Ferraris in general were looking very racy with both Hill and Bonnier having unsuccessful looks at Brabham. González got out of line getting passed by Bonnier and also lost out to Gregory, with Lex Davison also having a pop. Even Gerino Gerini, still 11th, was looming large in Graham Hill's mirrors. Phil Hill finally got the job done and passed both Bonnier and Brabham to get into P4. Gregory then stumbles on Brabham, which let Davison past him.

Surtees' climb through the pack was at this point being stymied by the Voecklers of Simon and Tavano, still struggling to get off the mark. Stacey was keeping a hold of the lead for now, though Moss was doing a good job at managing the gap. Brabham was still having a horrid time, and while he'd been keeping Bonnier at bay, Lex Davison went from strength to strength, finding a gap inside both of them at Tunnel Oost to take fifth place and opening a gap for Masten Gregory to do the same just two turns later. The Lotuses were absolutely flying around the dunes.

Gerini finally got past Graham Hill and hits the top 10 on lap 6, and Surtees also got his moves on the Voecklers complete, reaching fifteenth place. Even further back, Consalvo Sanesi had been stuck behind the slow-starting Dan Gurney for a while, but he finally made the move stick and reached the dizzying heights of 20th place. Brabham and Bonnier's death match had been going for multiple laps now and benefited yet another driver, this time González snuck past the duo at Tarzan and took seventh place, leaving the winners of the last two races eighth and ninth and Gerini and Graham Hill waiting patiently for their respective turns to pass them.

On lap 8, Phil Hill got the move done on Ramos and takes his Ferrari to third place, and Bonnier finally got the move on Brabham done, but Brabham was not done and would doubtless be having another go at the Ferrari later. It certainly hadn't stopped Gerini from passing the two in the meantime! Towards the rear, Robert la Caze had been floundering in nineteenth most of his time before his gearbox let go. As he got out of the car, he waved, dumbfounded, to the orange O.S.C.A. of Carel Godin de Beaufort which had been out there since the start, the grandstands shouting "oranje boven!" this whole time!

Bonnier got more breathing room ahead of Brabham on lap 9, as Gerini let him through and held up the Australian for a bit. Gerini clearly had no intentions of being too patient with his teammate though, and when González became the Swede's new stumbling block, Gerini simply passed both and took Brabham with him, putting them 7-8. Stacey by then had a bit more of a gap open to Moss, enough for the Brit to have to start worrying about Phil Hill's Ferrari. The Lotuses of Davison and Gregory (the latter ever-so-slightly quicker than the former yet unable to pass) had now caught Ramos and were threatening a move for fourth.

Voeckler's race went from bad to terminally worse at Tarzan on the tenth lap. Fernand Tavano and André Simon were trying to communicate to each other about how to get past John Surtees, but in so doing, Simon was too busy trying to understand Tavano's signals to look out for his brake point. The two never actually collided, but they both span in avoidance of each other and wound up beached in the sand by the roadside.

On lap 11, Davison got past Ramos and up into fourth, while Gregory couldn't quite make the move stick. Gerini was not too far away though, and Bonnier had broken past Brabham again. Further ahead, Moss had found a bit of pace, enough to put a bigger gap between him and Hill, but Stacey was just that little bit out of reach, the lead expanding. Jim Russell's valiant effort just outside the top 10 would sadly be fruitless, an oil leak ending his hopes, but more significantly for the championship battles, Jo Bonnier's engine expired at the same time. This pinned Ferrari's hopes on Phil Hill and Gerino Gerini, neither of which had won a race before. That said, their job would be made easier when Stirling Moss' car started smoking, it seemed that his clutch had been through a bit too many shifts around the twisty layout.

This opened the race wide for Stacey, but Phil Hill was not too far away. Both were on a similar strategy though, leading to a long stalemate between the two. Ramos was struggling for pace at this point against the other Lotuses, and while Gregory floundered for a while behind the Brazilian, Lex Davison had no such compunctions and grabbed third place from both of them before Gregory made his own way through. This left Lotus in a strong 1-3-4 position with Gerini quickly nabbing fifth place. Brabham was back on some kind of form, but simply could not find a way past González.

On lap 23, Gregory passed Davison to pick up third place, leaving the field relatively static for a while. Five laps later, Gurney pulled out on lap 28 having gotten a puncture. As Stacey prepared to lap de Beaufort's illegally running car, this was the impetus the clerk of the course needed and he motioned to Carel to pull over. The local hero had had his fun; it was time to end his day.

Brabham finally got past González on lap 29, while Lewis-Evans passed Consalvo Sanesi four laps later, the first of the fast-finish drivers to get past another driver, but Sanesi immediately got past him again on the very next lap. It took Stuart an embarrassing 8 additional laps to get back through. Similarly, González got back ahead of Brabham very quickly. John Surtees was the biggest gainer at this point, getting past Graham Hill for ninth place. The top five was astoundingly static, but with all gaps getting slowly smaller and smaller. Electrical issues for Bruce McLaren reduced the field to 14 drivers.

By this point, Ramos, González and Brabham found themselves in a strong battle for sixth place with Surtees and Graham Hill a short way behind, all five hoping to get in the mix for the win as they would soon start to reel in the top five, where the only movement was Gerini getting within striking distance of Davison for fourth. A few laps later, they were within a potentially good range, just as Lewis-Evans pulled out with a gearbox failure just as he was starting to make up the gap to Collins' Cooper.

It took until lap 59 for Ramos to fully catch Gerini and Davison, with the top three now all together but with similar pace. Stacey still led Hill and Gregory, with a sizeable gap to Davison in fourth. Brabham had fallen behind the O.S.C.A. drivers, and Surtees was right on him. Feeling the danger from Ramos, Gerini finally got the move done on Davison at the first chance he got, the Lotus driver keeping Ramos behind for now. Collins was hanging around the back of this pack, but clearly seemed to be missing something. That something was soon confirmed to have been oil pressure, continuing a poor season's start for the defending champion. This luck seemingly also extended to Alan Stacey. He'd led 61 of the first 62 laps, but he'd now been betrayed by a snapped suspension arm.

This left Phil Hill in the lead, but Masten Gregory was closing in lap on lap. Ramos got past Davison and took fourth place, with Gerini now third, and Graham Hill took his spot back from Surtees on lap 65, now for eighth place. At the very back, Salvadori had caught Sanesi, allowing him to have a go at second-last for the first time in many many moons. On lap 69, he finally passed Sanesi to hit the top 10. Graham Hill got past teammate González and into sixth place, then past Davison, making it an O.S.C.A. 4-5-6 behind Ramos as Davison ran out of juice and fell behind González.

Gerini was backing up Ramos and Hill ably, but forgot about the man behind: González found a good opening at Gerlachbost and powered past the three of them and up into third place. By lap 72, Gerini was really starting to falter, prompting Ramos to swap positions with Graham Hill to give the Brit a shot at an overtake. After a lap of failed moves, Ramos took it upon himself to try again, but instead clumsily tapped Gerini into a spin and out of what was undoubtedly his best race up to this point.

Brabham soon got past Davison, dropping the Lotus driver to eighth. A couple more laps through, Surtees also cleared Davison, and took that chance to get past Brabham for good measure! Not only that, he pulled off a masterful divebomb on Graham Hill at Tarzanbocht to claim fifth place, which also opened a gap for Brbham to follow through into sixth. Hill didn't take this lying down however. On lap 77, he passed both of them in consecutive corners through the twisty dunes to reclaim fifth. González was reeling in the slowing top two of Hill and Gregory now, believing he might have just enough to catch them by the end. Instead, González span! Completely unprompted, he lost the rear, span around and stalled his O.S.C.A.. This elevates Ramos to third, while Graham Hill lost fourth place to John Surtees on lap 79.

Phil Hill had been leading for ages with Masten Gregory just a bit faster, yet not ever able to find a way past. Neither American had won a Grand Prix to this point, and it would not be Hill in this case. Trying to keep Gregory behind must have cost him more fuel than Ferrari had planned for, and with just two laps remaining, Hill's car ground to a slow, tragic halt. Masten Gregory now held a good lead with just two laps remaining, but Ramos would not let him have it easy, catching at a rate of knots. With one lap yet, the Brazilian had to not put a single foot wrong, but a slide at Scheivlak robbed him of the momentum he needed. With all the reprieve he needed, Masten Gregory scored a maiden victory for both himself and the Lotus works team. Graham Hill was able to find his way back past Surtees on the penultimate lap to claim a second career podium. B.C.M.A. take fourth and fifth, Surtees edging out Brabham after a difficult day for the Australian. Lex Davison claimed the final point, with Phil Hill slotting into seventh place ahead of Salvadori and Sanesi.

1. Masten Gregory (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) 2:20:30.02
2. Hernando da Silva Ramos (O.S.C.A.) +13.89
3. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) +29.51
4. John Surtees (B.C.M.A.) +32.88
5. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) +35.41
6. Lex Davison (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +1 lap
7. Phil Hill (Ferrari) +3 laps/Out of fuel
8. Roy Salvadori (Vanwall) +3 laps
9. Consalvo Sanesi (O.S.C.A.) +4 laps
Ret. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) +7 laps/Spin
Ret. Gerino Gerini (Ferrari) +11 laps/Collision
Ret. Alan Stacey (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +22 laps/Suspension
Ret. Peter Collins (Cooper-Climax) +23 laps/Oil pressure
Ret. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +34 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Bruce McLaren (Cooper-Climax) +47 laps/Electrics
Ret. Dan Gurney (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +57 laps/Puncture
Ret. Stirling Moss (B.C.M.A.) +71 laps/Clutch
Ret. Jim Russell (Cooper-BRM) +73 laps/Oil leak
Ret. Jo Bonnier (Ferrari) +73 laps/Engine
Ret. Fernand Tavano (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +75 laps/Accident
Ret. André Simon (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +75 laps/Accident
Ret. Robert la Caze (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +77 laps/Gearbox

Fastest lap: John Surtees (B.C.M.A.) - 1:35.11

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Championship standings
Drivers

1. Masten Gregory - 11 (1 win, 1 5th, 2 Rets)
2. Jack Brabham - 11 (1 win, 1 5th, 1 Ret)
3. José Froilán González - 9 (1 win, 3 Rets)
4. Jo Bonnier - 9 (1 win, 2 Rets)
5. John Surtees - 4 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 Ret)
=. Graham Hill - 3 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 Ret)
7. Phil Hill - 6 (1 2nd, 1 7th)
8. André Simon - 6 (1 2nd, 3 Rets)
=. Hernando da Silva Ramos - 6 (1 2nd, 3 Rets)
10. Wolfgang von Trips - 6 (1 2nd, 1 Ret)
11. Stirling Moss - 4
12. Gerino Gerini - 3
13. Stuart Lewis-Evans - 2
14. Lex Davison - 1 (1 6th, 1 7th)
15. Fernand Tavano - 1 (1 6th, 3 Rets)
16. Peter Collins - 1 (1 6th, 2 Rets)

Constructors
1. O.S.C.A. - 18
2. B.C.M.A. - 16
3. Lotus-O.S.C.A. - 13
4. Ferrari - 12
5. Voeckler-O.S.C.A. - 7
6. Cooper-Climax - 1

Entrants
1. Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili - 18
2. British Commonwealth Motorsport Association - 16
3. Scuderia Ferrari - 12
4. Team Lotus - 11
5. Écurie Voeckler - 7
6. Scuderia Centro Sud - 6
7. Rob Walker Racing - 2
8. Cooper Car Company - 1

Prize money to come in due course.
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Post-race report
Injuries
Nothing to report here.

Damages
González's chassis (F159 chassis 2) - £91
Gerini's chassis (246 chassis 4) - £857
Bonnier's engine (143 engine 1) - £16 214
Tavano's chassis (Type 57 chassis 3) - £6 103
Simon's chassis (Type 57 chassis 1) - £549

Prize money (distance)
Masten Gregory - £2000
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £2000
Graham Hill - £2000
John Surtees - £2000
Jack Brabham - £2000
Lex Davison - £1 988
Phil Hill - £1 964
Roy Salvadori - £1 964
Consalvo Sanesi - £1 952
José Froilán González - £1 917
Gerino Gerini - £1 869
Alan Stacey - £1 738
Peter Collins - £1 726
Stuart Lewis-Evans - £1 595
Bruce McLaren - £1 440
Dan Gurney - £1 321
Stirling Moss - £1 155
Jim Russell - £1 131
Jo Bonnier - £1 131
Fernand Tavano - £1 107
André Simon - £1 107
Robert la Caze - £1 083
Wolfgang von Trips - £500
Troy Ruttman - £500
Olivier Gendebien - £500
Carel Godin de Beaufort - £500
Honoré Wagner - £500
Rob Slotemaker - £500
Ulf Norinder - £500
Mike Parkes - £500
"Beurlys" - £500

Prize money (position)
Masten Gregory - £26 000
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £21 250
Graham Hill - £16 500
John Surtees - £13 250
Jack Brabham - £9 000
Lex Davison - £6 250
Phil Hill - £5 500
Roy Salvadori - £4 750
Consalvo Sanesi - £4 000
Alan Stacey - £3 750
José Froilán González - £3 250
Gerino Gerini - £2 500
Peter Collins - £2 000
Stuart Lewis-Evans - £1 750
Bruce McLaren - £1 500
Dan Gurney - £1 250
Stirling Moss - £1 000
Jim Russell - £750
Jo Bonnier - £500
Fernand Tavano - £250

Budgets have been updated.
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XX Grand Prix de Belgique - Entry list
1. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
2. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1
3. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
4. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
5. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
6. Lucien Bianchi (Écurie Nationale Belge) - Ferrari 246 chassis 3, Ferrari 143 engine 6
7. Rob Slotemaker (Slotemaker Garage) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
8. Jean Romain (Jean Romain) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
9. André Pilette (Vouivre Course) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 Mk. II chassis 1, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 4
10. Alain de Changy (Alain de Changy) - Gordini Type 56B chassis 1, Gordini G258/B engine 1
11. Bernard Collomb (Bernard Collomb) - Gordini Type 56B chassis 2, Gordini G258/B engine 2*
12. Eldé (Ecurie Mystère) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 2, Gordini G258/A engine 1*
13. Blary (Ecurie Mystère) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2*
14. Beurlys (Ecurie Mystère) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3
15. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
16. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
17. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
18. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 5, Ferrari DS50 engine 3
19. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
20. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
21. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
22. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
23. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, BRM P26 engine 3
24. Olivier Gendebien (Owen Racing Organisation) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 4
25. Christian Goethals (Écurie Éperon d'Or) - Fry F2 chassis 3, Borgward 1500 RS engine 3*
26. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
27. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
28. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
29. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
30. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
31. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
32. Robert la Caze (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
33. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
34. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
35. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
36. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
37. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
38. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 2
39. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 3

*Pending entry verification

Entry list will close at noon CET on April 20th 2025.
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Ecurie Maarsbergen will enter their OSCA again for Carel Godin De Beuafort

Meanwhile Make Parkes will enter for Fry, the second car will be available for local privateers for loan. A third Fry-Borgward will also be constructed in preparation for the British GP, but if needed, could be loaned to a privateer as well.
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For the Belgian Grand Prix, B.C.M.A. will submit the following entries:

Jack Brabham - P.1101 1, Pegasus 1
John Surtees - P.1101 2, Pegasus 2
Stirling Moss - P.1101 3, Pegasus 3
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OBSW will spend £50,000 to design a chassis, designated the Homar 151. We shall build 2 of them imminently.

In addition, we are looking to acquire engines from someone - any sellers? :P
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satsuki4 wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 15:41 OBSW will spend £50,000 to design a chassis, designated the Homar 151. We shall build 2 of them imminently.

In addition, we are looking to acquire engines from someone - any sellers? :P
Borgward can offer you F2 engines. :pantano:
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OTHER ENTRIES (UPDATED)

**NEW**
(With permission from Miguel98) Lucien Bianchi agreed to rent a Ferrari. He will run under his usual ENB team colors. Bianchi will pay for all travel and repair costs, and an additional £4000 for "rental fees":
Team: Écurie Nationale Belge
Ferrari 246 3 - Ferrari 143 6


(With permission from Nessafox) Rob Slotemaker will borrow a car/engine from Reg Parnell again. He will pay for all repairs and transport, as last time.
Team: Slotemaker Garage
Cooper T45 5 - Climax FPV IV 4

"Romain" (Jean Romain) has a license to race, and he will take the second Fry car.
Team: "Romain"
Fry F2 2 - Borgward 1500 RS 2

Vouivre Course
(KevinBotz, please confirm) André Pilette will borrow a car from B.C.M.A. He will pay for travel and repair costs:
Team: Vouivre Course
B.C.M.A. RP.1001 Mk. II 1 - B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern 4
- - - - - - - - -
(Pinkd) Voeckler agrees to allow some local talents to run the Gordinis as they did in France. The following 2 drivers will agree to pay for travel and repair costs:

Alain de Changy
Team: Alain de Changy
Gordini Type 56B 1 - Gordini G258/B 1 (1958)

Bernard Collomb
Team: Bernard Collomb
Gordini Type 56B 2 - Gordini G258/B 2 (1958)

- - - - - - - - -

Écurie Mystère
These three drivers will all run in the same outfit, and all will run under aliases (These are all sportscar drivers who raced GT3.0 class for ENB in 1959: https://www.racingsportscars.com/entry/ ... 06-07.html
This one-off team will pay for transport and repair costs:
”Eldé”
Team: Ecurie Mystère
Gordini Type 56 2 - Gordini G258/A 1 (1956)

"Blary"
Team: Ecurie Mystère
Gordini Type 56 3 - Gordini G258/A 2 (1956)

"Beurlys"
Team: Ecurie Mystère
Gordini Type 56 4 - Gordini G258/A 3 (1956)
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B.C.M.A. confirms the loan to Andre Pilette.
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Ferrari confirm the rent to Lucien Bianchi.

We will repair whatever damage we have on our cars from last GP and enter the following vehicles:


27. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
28. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
29. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5

We aill field an additional fourth Ferrari for the following driver:

30. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 5, Ferrari DS50 engine 3
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SCS enter with the same chassis and driver combo as the last Grand Prix.
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Same entries for Belgium as for its Dutch neighbour.

Rob Walker Racing
Stuart Lewis-Evans - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
Dan Gurney - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6

Owen Racing Organisation
Troy Ruttman - Lotus 12 chassis 4, BRM P26 engine 3
Olivier Gendebien - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 4
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Fry's third chassis will be offered to Christian Goethals, but run under the name Écurie Éperon d'Or
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Nessafox wrote: 11 Apr 2025, 20:33
satsuki4 wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 15:41 OBSW will spend £50,000 to design a chassis, designated the Homar 151. We shall build 2 of them imminently.

In addition, we are looking to acquire engines from someone - any sellers? :P
Borgward can offer you F2 engines. :pantano:
Exactly how shite are they and what's the price?
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satsuki4 wrote: 13 Apr 2025, 10:59
Nessafox wrote: 11 Apr 2025, 20:33
satsuki4 wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 15:41 OBSW will spend £50,000 to design a chassis, designated the Homar 151. We shall build 2 of them imminently.

In addition, we are looking to acquire engines from someone - any sellers? :P
Borgward can offer you F2 engines. :pantano:
Exactly how shite are they and what's the price?
Absolute lowest tier and i haven't actually thought of a price... hm let's say that for 3000 one of them is yours :deletraz:
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Vanwall will enter with the same stuff as usual.
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Nessafox wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 14:10
satsuki4 wrote: 13 Apr 2025, 10:59
Nessafox wrote: 11 Apr 2025, 20:33

Borgward can offer you F2 engines. :pantano:
Exactly how shite are they and what's the price?
Absolute lowest tier and i haven't actually thought of a price... hm let's say that for 3000 one of them is yours :deletraz:
OBSW will think about it. :P
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satsuki4 wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 17:10
Nessafox wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 14:10
satsuki4 wrote: 13 Apr 2025, 10:59
Exactly how shite are they and what's the price?
Absolute lowest tier and i haven't actually thought of a price... hm let's say that for 3000 one of them is yours :deletraz:
OBSW will think about it. :P
i actually stand correct, there is apparently an even lower tier than the one i picked. So the engine is the second lowest.
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Aislabie wrote: 17 Jul 2024, 22:19 Team Lotus
  • Image Masten Gregory - Lotus 16 chassis 1 | OSCA 1559 engine 8
  • Image Alan Stacey - Lotus 16 chassis 2 | OSCA 1559 engine 9
  • Image Lex Davison - Lotus 16 chassis 3 | OSCA 1559 engine 10

    Image Jim Clark will also be invited to travel with the team, but will not be entered into this Grand Prix.
British Racing Partnership
  • Image Jim Russell - Cooper T45 chassis 3 | BRM P26 engine 5
Privateer
  • Image Honoré Wagner - Lotus 12 chassis 2 | OSCA 1558 engine 11
    equipment loaned from Lotus
The usual entries as... well, as usual
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Voeckler will do the same as what they did at the last race
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The usual full-season entries for OSCA:

Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
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HI YES COOPER IS ENTERING THE BELGIAN GRAND PRIX

B. MCLAREN WILL DRIVE A COOPER T45-1 AND P. COLLINS WILL DRIVE A COOPER 45-2. BOTH POWERED BY FPF V 3 ENGINES!!!
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