
Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
My provisional nomination is Lewis Hamilton for ruining Bottas' race.
Or the false hopes of WTSNBM.

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Weather Forecast.
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Lewis Hamilton: Stupid move on Bottas just threw away a trip to the gala because of that
Mercedes: You went the wrong way on wing design
Stewards: I can't see what Massa did wrong there
Caterham: Terrible end to their race
WTSNBM: So much for that
And if the FIA fine Webber for his helmet removal they will seal the deal
Mercedes: You went the wrong way on wing design
Stewards: I can't see what Massa did wrong there
Caterham: Terrible end to their race
WTSNBM: So much for that
And if the FIA fine Webber for his helmet removal they will seal the deal
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
I have to say the RAIN (since the race is over) wins this award for me despite Mercedes once again messing up big time. It came on the wrong day.
Saying that though Mercedes really were asking for the award since they managed to mess up a great quali. AGAIN
Lewis Hamilton- YOU were in the wrong you don't move on the track like that.
Saying that though Mercedes really were asking for the award since they managed to mess up a great quali. AGAIN
Lewis Hamilton- YOU were in the wrong you don't move on the track like that.
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Lewis Hamilton - Freeze-O-Kimi you couldn't have said it better - his '4th/5th in the title streak' continues to go on.
Lotus - Can we give it to them for scoring no points for the first time in 2 years?
Lotus - Can we give it to them for scoring no points for the first time in 2 years?
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Everyone who fell for my posts in the race thread -

But seriously
The weather - Teased us time and again, but sadly did not deliver.
Caterham - Had a chance of taking 10th in the constructors, and what did they do? VDG ignores blue flags, and Pic breaks his suspension.
But ROTR has to go to:
Lewis Hamilton - Idiot. You know those square things either side of your cockpit. They're called mirrors. USE THEM.
But seriously
The weather - Teased us time and again, but sadly did not deliver.
Caterham - Had a chance of taking 10th in the constructors, and what did they do? VDG ignores blue flags, and Pic breaks his suspension.
But ROTR has to go to:
Lewis Hamilton - Idiot. You know those square things either side of your cockpit. They're called mirrors. USE THEM.
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Madolan for that cut
Hamilton for that cut
Rain for not coming great enough
Hamilton for that cut
Rain for not coming great enough
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
Everyone in the race bar Sebastian Vettel: At the writing of this post, I have been awake for 10 minutes. I missed the entire race, and as a Vettel fan, I'm pleased that he won, but I can't honestly say I was surprised.
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
No doubts, Lewis Hamilton! Wrecked Bottas and got a deserved punishment.
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
Tempted to give it to Mercedes because of their high downforce set-up, but they'd have been mega in the traction zones had it rained so that's a team taking a strategic gamble that didn't pay off. Therefore, Hamilton for not using the (admittedly stupidly small) mirrors and ending Bottas' race.
And if anyone votes for Caterham, your a bit silly. It's hardly their fault they didn't get 13th today, blame their first three races
But gutted for GVDG, he deserved more. He's been one of my drivers-of-the-year.
And if anyone votes for Caterham, your a bit silly. It's hardly their fault they didn't get 13th today, blame their first three races

But gutted for GVDG, he deserved more. He's been one of my drivers-of-the-year.
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
1. The Rain: I was teased a lot in life. I hate it. This is an example of it.
2. Lewis Hamilton: Lost his place in championship, and took Bottas out of the race.
2. Lewis Hamilton: Lost his place in championship, and took Bottas out of the race.
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
Lewis Hamilton- Yep, turns out that moving across the track in the braking zone does result in accidents. Who would've thought it?
Honourable mentions
Mercedes- Poor pace, did their best to gift Ferrari 2nd in the Constructors.
Heikki Kovaleinen- The man signed to help Lotus catch Ferrari and Mercedes spent the whole race bumbling around outside the points, being anonymously slow, and can probably kiss goodbye to his career for good now.
Honourable mentions
Mercedes- Poor pace, did their best to gift Ferrari 2nd in the Constructors.
Heikki Kovaleinen- The man signed to help Lotus catch Ferrari and Mercedes spent the whole race bumbling around outside the points, being anonymously slow, and can probably kiss goodbye to his career for good now.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:And if the FIA fine Webber for his helmet removal they will seal the deal
I won't be surprised if this does happen, the FIA never likes drivers to take their helmets off on the cooldown lap. They fined Gerhard Berger after the 1989 Portuguese GP for taking his helmet off after winning the race.
Otherwise:
3. Grosjean's Renault engine. Ruined a potentially great race from him, even if he had a below par start.
2. Red Bull's pit stops. For the team that hasn't done almost anything wrong all year, to screw up 3 stops in one day is pretty reject worthy.
1. Mercedes AMG Petronas/Williams GP Engineering. For Merc, Lewis driving like a tool, the setup being wrong, but then again, they couldn't do anything, Rosberg taking the lead on lap 1 only to finish behind a McLaren, and just a bad day for them. For Williams, Bottas used as a battering ram, and Maldonado being useless and causing hilarity in the F1 Rejects chatroom. Overall, both performances were equally as bad in reality and for both of these teams being beaten up by McLaren (Merc in particular) is just sad.
Honorable mention for the weather forecast.
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Hamilton: Did his best impression of Olivier Grouillard and knocked Bottas out of the race, and then claimed it wasn't his fault. Use your mirrors, Hambone!
Honorable mentions:
The pit entry: Everyone cuts into there; either put a brick wall there if people aren't allowed to cut it or redesign it. I know it is not easy, but to be honest I am surprised no one hasn't run into the pit wall there (to my knowledge). it's an accident waiting to happen, and aside from that, it's just poorly marked.
Kovalainen: Was absolutely nowhere.
I really can't nominate rain since well, you can't control weather.
Honorable mentions:
The pit entry: Everyone cuts into there; either put a brick wall there if people aren't allowed to cut it or redesign it. I know it is not easy, but to be honest I am surprised no one hasn't run into the pit wall there (to my knowledge). it's an accident waiting to happen, and aside from that, it's just poorly marked.
Kovalainen: Was absolutely nowhere.
I really can't nominate rain since well, you can't control weather.
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What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Going to nominate Hamilton for taking out Bottas. Wasn't really necessary to do that manouvre.
Going to nominate Hamilton for taking out Bottas. Wasn't really necessary to do that manouvre.
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Easy. HAMILTON.
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Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Going to nominate Hamilton for taking out Bottas. Wasn't really necessary to do that manouvre.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:I created it. No one should say rain if the reports suggest that and it stands for Word that shall not be mentioned
I thought it was Weather. Rain is one of many different types of weather.

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good_Ralf wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:I created it. No one should say rain if the reports suggest that and it stands for Word that shall not be mentioned
I thought it was Weather. Rain is one of many different types of weather.
It was initially that but it didn't sound right
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Dan B wrote:The pit entry: Everyone cuts into there; either put a brick wall there if people aren't allowed to cut it or redesign it. I know it is not easy, but to be honest I am surprised no one hasn't run into the pit wall there (to my knowledge). it's an accident waiting to happen, and aside from that, it's just poorly marked.
This is a very good point to make and is certainly a low point for me during the race. The only issue with the pit entry before that I can recall was last year when Karthikeyan chopped off Grosjean right near the wall and half of RoGro's front wing went with it. But, why should they do squat about it? It's a stupid thing to doon the FIA's part, because the driver's won't care if there is a wall or not at the white line, they will get as close as they can to the white line.
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ROTR goes to Hamilton because of that dreadful chop on Bottas.
Dishonourable mention for Hekki Kovalainen for being so poor in this race and in Austin as well.
Dishonourable mention for Hekki Kovalainen for being so poor in this race and in Austin as well.
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roblomas52 wrote:ROTR goes to Hamilton because of that dreadful chop on Bottas.
Dishonourable mention for Hekki Kovalainen for being so poor in this race and in Austin as well.
He can be given slack for Austin as he had a KERS issue and a damaged front wing, but otherwise, I'd agree with you. It makes me wonder what Valsecchi would have done.
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go_Rubens wrote:roblomas52 wrote:ROTR goes to Hamilton because of that dreadful chop on Bottas.
Dishonourable mention for Hekki Kovalainen for being so poor in this race and in Austin as well.
He can be given slack for Austin as he had a KERS issue and a damaged front wing, but otherwise, I'd agree with you. It makes me wonder what Valsecchi would have done.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:go_Rubens wrote:roblomas52 wrote:ROTR goes to Hamilton because of that dreadful chop on Bottas.
Dishonourable mention for Hekki Kovalainen for being so poor in this race and in Austin as well.
He can be given slack for Austin as he had a KERS issue and a damaged front wing, but otherwise, I'd agree with you. It makes me wonder what Valsecchi would have done.
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But then again, the GP2 field is weak as all hell.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Salamander will now remind us that Davide is the 2nd weakest GP2 Champion ever
Well... he is...
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Well, Bottas before he was shoved out (barring the first few laps) and Vergne in particular weren't exactly covering themselves in glory but it has to go to Hamilton for slipping back into stupid mode.
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Salamander wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Salamander will now remind us that Davide is the 2nd weakest GP2 Champion ever
Well... he is...
I know that based on the fact you always mention it whenever we discuss Valssechi
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According to the Finnish broadcast, Lotus changed the floor design of Kovalainen's car between Friday and Saturday and he wasn't entirely happy about it.
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
In defence of Hamilton - Bottas was being LAPPED. Why was Bottas trying to unlap himself with DRS when he'd have only been getting blue flags again a few corners later? I can accept the penalty for Hamilton would have been fair enough had they been racing for position but they weren't - Bottas was being lapped and therefore should have get Hamilton go, and not put himself in that position.
Plus it was picked up on the Skypad that Hamilton DID leave a car's width on the right as there was still some space between Bottas and the edge of the track.
Plus it was picked up on the Skypad that Hamilton DID leave a car's width on the right as there was still some space between Bottas and the edge of the track.
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Coulthard came out with this - sorry to say this, but it is - excuse on the commentary. But would you want to slide onto the white line in the wet? It doesn't matter how much room there was, Lewis moved over on him, simple as that. If anyone looked like they were racing for position, to me it was Lewis. He'd been in one of his 'moods' all weekend so it's no surprise that something like that happened!
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James1978 wrote:In defence of Hamilton - Bottas was being LAPPED. Why was Bottas trying to unlap himself with DRS when he'd have only been getting blue flags again a few corners later? I can accept the penalty for Hamilton would have been fair enough had they been racing for position but they weren't - Bottas was being lapped and therefore should have get Hamilton go, and not put himself in that position.
Plus it was picked up on the Skypad that Hamilton DID leave a car's width on the right as there was still some space between Bottas and the edge of the track.
This.
I was starting to think that I was the only one to see it that way. It would have been different had they been racing for position, as I initially assumed watching the replay - but later they showed a second one which showed Hamilton ahead and Bottas taking advantage of DRS to stay close to him. Too close, in the end.
I'm no Hamilton fan, but it seems as every time he's involved in a racing accident which people blame on him, I can't see it. Off the top of my mind I can remember his crash with Kobayashi at Spa and with Maldonado at Monaco as two examples of this. It puzzles me a little bit... But I don't remember him ever crashing with Alonso: battles between those two are always great, completely in the limit and yet they never seem to collide, and that's not because Alonso lifts off all the time, or anything. Granted, now the next race they will crash against each other and retire

Just my $0.02...
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Re: Reject of the Race: Brazil, 2013
Ferrim wrote:James1978 wrote:In defence of Hamilton - Bottas was being LAPPED. Why was Bottas trying to unlap himself with DRS when he'd have only been getting blue flags again a few corners later? I can accept the penalty for Hamilton would have been fair enough had they been racing for position but they weren't - Bottas was being lapped and therefore should have get Hamilton go, and not put himself in that position.
Plus it was picked up on the Skypad that Hamilton DID leave a car's width on the right as there was still some space between Bottas and the edge of the track.
This.
I was starting to think that I was the only one to see it that way. It would have been different had they been racing for position, as I initially assumed watching the replay - but later they showed a second one which showed Hamilton ahead and Bottas taking advantage of DRS to stay close to him. Too close, in the end.
I'm no Hamilton fan, but it seems as every time he's involved in a racing accident which people blame on him, I can't see it. Off the top of my mind I can remember his crash with Kobayashi at Spa and with Maldonado at Monaco as two examples of this. It puzzles me a little bit... But I don't remember him ever crashing with Alonso: battles between those two are always great, completely in the limit and yet they never seem to collide, and that's not because Alonso lifts off all the time, or anything. Granted, now the next race they will crash against each other and retirebut my point is that maybe Hamilton tends to expect from every other driver the same level of awareness that he has, and this is what from time to time causes these crashes, while he doesn't have this problem with racing someone of Alonso's skill.
Just my $0.02...
Just because he's lapping a car does not mean he doesn't have to check his mirrors. If Bottas turned on Hamilton there would be some credence, but he didn't.
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But why would Hamilton have expected a car he's just lapped to be alongside him?
Anyway my nomination goes to Lotus - a monumental engine blow up for Grosjean and Kovalainen being absolutely nowhere.
Anyway my nomination goes to Lotus - a monumental engine blow up for Grosjean and Kovalainen being absolutely nowhere.
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James1978 wrote:But why would Hamilton have expected a car he's just lapped to be alongside him?
Anyway my nomination goes to Lotus - a monumental engine blow up for Grosjean and Kovalainen being absolutely nowhere.
Why shouldn't he? Yes, Bottas might've been lapped but it's not against the rules to get the lap back, is it?
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Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Rain.
Yes, Freezy-Kimi came up with a 6 letter abbreviation for a 4 letter word. No, I don't either.
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Rain.
Yes, Freezy-Kimi came up with a 6 letter abbreviation for a 4 letter word. No, I don't either.
Its short for Word That Shall Not Be Mentioned. Its because both him and I were getting bored of rain reports being predicted and nothing in the race. So he correctly banned it (not that it mattered)
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rachel1990 wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Rain.
Yes, Freezy-Kimi came up with a 6 letter abbreviation for a 4 letter word. No, I don't either.
Its short for Word That Shall Not Be Mentioned. Its because both him and I were getting bored of rain reports being predicted and nothing in the race. So he correctly banned it (not that it mattered)
Rain. You can't censor me.
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Rain.
Yes, Freezy-Kimi came up with a 6 letter abbreviation for a 4 letter word. No, I don't either.
HWNSNBM has a 7 letter abbreviation for a 16 letter name and no one complains about that
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Ataxia wrote:rachel1990 wrote:
Its short for Word That Shall Not Be Mentioned. Its because both him and I were getting bored of rain reports being predicted and nothing in the race. So he correctly banned it (not that it mattered)
Rain. You can't censor me.
Doesn't matter anymore Anyone can mention it as much as they want now
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:Aerospeed wrote:What does WTSNBM mean anyways?
Rain.
Yes, Freezy-Kimi came up with a 6 letter abbreviation for a 4 letter word. No, I don't either.
HWNSNBM has a 7 letter abbreviation for a 13 letter name and no one complains about that
Bro, do you even math? Seriously? Is it THAT hard?
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