Grand Prix Rejects

James1978

Isn't that photo from when Bottas first signed for them in 2017? He looks too young for it to be now!

James1978

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59NdUEain4 Someone asked when I did the alphabet of most successful drivers, if it was posssible to work out the most successful driver from each country - well here it is! (OK it was done in early 2023 so for instance Max Verstappen only has 2 championships rather t...

James1978

sswishbone wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 18:12 Doesn't Alex Zanardi beat Zonta?

Afraid not! Zanardi only had 1 6th place, Zonta had 3 (hence unrejectified himself, Zanardi didn't). I'm not looking at other forms of motorsport, just F1.

James1978

I meant 3 champions called Hill missed out, I wasn't referring to the total number of championships. Hakkinen is included in that list too and also has 2, my point was because of Hamilton's 7, an awful lot of champions miss out on having the chance to be included on the list! And I was also just wan...

James1978

Thought I'd compile an alphabet of the most successful drivers beginning with each letter of the alphabet (surnames), some of this might be subjective but I'm going on championships first, then race wins, then placings. Nobody begins with X :-) Fernando Alonso (could argue for Ascari with also champ...

James1978

Sadly as much as I was pleased Red Bull gave him a shot or he was out of F1 4 years ago, I too have to give it to Checo

I kind of wish he'd signed for one of the lower teams much earlier in the season - he'd be absolutely fine if he was in say a Haas or an Alpine.

James1978

Another reason for Gasly which I hadn't realised when originally posting is incurring absolute zero worth of damage for the whole season. That's quite something (especially with his teammate's attempts in Monaco!)

James1978

Even though he's done an amazing job this year (as it's clearly now him and not the car given how much Checo has struggled) I'm saying Max for that first corner move - he was basically reckoning McLaren would jump out of the way for him the constructors to worry about. DHM to Bottas for ruining two ...

James1978

I'll go with Gasly but give HMs to both Leclerc and Hamilton for getting to where they did from lowly grid positions (and it was only right that 12 seasons at Mercedes ended on a high for Hamiton too). Also HM to Norris for delivering under pressure - once Piastri was out of the reckoning he had to ...

James1978

Also the messy situation at Alpine (it would actually make more sense at Mercedes to get Antonelli in there for some experience, let Hamilton get a test with Ferrari as unlike Alpine they're not in a close fight in the constructors!) (Ah actually come to think of it, it's the fact that it's Ocon's n...

James1978

Zhou 1st and Gasly 2nd.

James1978

Pretty terrible ay for Britain all told - Hamilton looking less and less like he wants to be there, Lando for getting that penalty by not lifting and George for making proper enemies of Max which probably isn't too clever (the whole situation was a bit reminiscent of Suzuka 1990 - it was either goin...

James1978

Wow, how far Zhou is off the other regular drivers shows how bad that Sauber really is. Even Sargeant and Colapinto's total is ahead of Zhou despite them having a few crashes!!

James1978

I genuinely don't know where that Mercedes pace came from but I'm going for them. Could easily have been 2014 - 20!

James1978

Alpine as a whole get it for me, you can add in Pierre Gas Leak when he was in a good position! (Back down to earth with a bang after the euphoria of the double podium in Brazil)

Don't see the point of Checo or Stroll or Sauber, they're among the ROTY candidates.

James1978

Hate to say it but Damon Hill in 1999 against Frentzen!

James1978

I was expecting Max to win once it was wet even from a bad grid position - thinking 2016 and also Schumacher-esque like Spain 96 too. So I'm going for Alpine - I expected them to be eaten up by Russell/Leclerc/Norris etc once the rain eased but it never happened! HM to Max and Yuki.

James1978

Yeah Stroll gets it for comedy factor for me!

James1978

None of the Red Bull stable did anything good was Checo was so bad it was laughable. Max probably escapes due to his teammate being so bad! DHM for Piastri - his inconsistency could cost them too. Ferrari of the top teams have the best all-round driver pairing but even that's going to spoiled next y...

James1978

K-Mag gets it for me too - was racing 2 front runners on merit.

James1978

Colapinto is going to end up beating Sargeant with a lot less races!

James1978

Lawson easily gets this for me to come straight in and do that. If that doesn't give Checo a kick up the backside, nothing will. Also good on him for getting under the whinging old git's skin too.

HMs to Ferrari, Hulk and Colapinto.

James1978

Hamilton, "The Max Verstappen rule", Aston Martin and Checo (especially with Lawson impressing) are all worth consideration. Also Alpine's special liveries always end up in them looking like the clone of another car, in this case the McLaren (their pink at the start of last year was Force ...

James1978

To me Kovalainen was a poor man's Bottas. Their careers were remarkably similar but Kovy's was in a shorter timeframe. Stage 1: Outperform a more experienced race-winner in a once-great but now upper-midfield team. Stage 2: Be Hamilton's designated wingman after Hamilton had a fractious relationship...

James1978

Pastor Maldonado replacing Kimi at Lotus for 2014

James1978

I guess Checo could be in danger if the junior team take Lawson for the last few races of this year and impresses though they have put Kvyat, Gasly and Albon in the senior team too early, the former is out of F1 entirely now and the latter two took a while to establish themselves at other (not as co...

James1978

Between Checo, Hamilton's strategy and Ferrari for messing up qualifying which cost them in the race (and could have done with getting someone in between Lando and Max to close the championship up too)

James1978

Can't really think of anything beyond the two candidates most readily mentioned but was actually impressed with Max given how they've been struggling of late and and how far behind him was Checo (for a street circuit specialist too)

James1978

Williams for a great points haul overtaking Alpine in the constructors and you wonder why they didn't have Colapinto in there instead of Sargeant in there earlier.

HMs to Oscar and shame he didn't finish but Checo for being quicker than Max for the first time in god knows how long.

James1978

Both the 2021 title protagonists were terrible!

Sainz/Perez incident was unfortunate but it seemed Checo drifted right a bit too.

James1978

Gotta be Charles for making that strategy work. Carlos in comparison really struggled with it. Also agree with a HM for Checo - last 2 races he's been well within a pitstop of Max at the end which is what the team needs from him - it's looking more like Danny Ric is going to be out of F1 at this rat...

James1978

"Papaya Rules" or whatever they're called. Looks like massively backfiring on them.

James1978

I didn't notice how far Sauber were off everyone else but yes OK fair cop. Hardly surprising it's looking like the last 2025 seat to be filled (if we think Mercedes will announce Antonelli at Monza and there's still some Red Bull internals to be sorted)!

James1978

Nothing

James1978

dr-baker wrote: ↑30 Jul 2024, 06:03 When did Sainz drive for McLaren? I don't remember that.

2019 and 2020 (between Renault and Ferrari). It's where "Carlando" stemmed from when they were teammates

James1978

Correct me if I'm wrong but Sainz going to Williams means I think he's the 1st driver to drive for all 4 of the 90s "Big Four", i.e. Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and "Team Enstone" (i.e. Toleman, Benetton, Renault, Lotus, and Alpine). Been wanting someone to do that for 30 years!!...

James1978

Correct me if I'm wrong but Sainz going to Williams means I think he's the 1st driver to drive for all 4 of the 90s "Big Four", i.e. Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and "Team Enstone" (i.e. Toleman, Benetton, Renault, Lotus, and Alpine). Been wanting someone to do that for 30 years!!

James1978

Going for Ocon. (Would have been Russell had his car been legal).

James1978

Its between Mercedes - 1.5 kg is a massive amount, seriously? And Checo - goodbye Red Bull contract. Front row to last of the top 4 teams on the road.

James1978

The race you could be thinking of about Grosjean was possibly Valencia 2012 - I think he was about to inherit the lead from Vettel (or be a very close 2nd behind Alonso, I can't quite remember which) when him and Vettel had just about simultaneous alternator failures.

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